That will teach them to vote Labour

[SueEllen]

You lack the imagination to be a really sick puppy.

TMI

[SueEllen]

Just occurred to me this time the individual won't be found as they would have learnt from Dame Shirley Porter about what not to do.

[NotAllThere]

Has ISIS claimed responsibility yet?

[BrilloPad]

Has ISIS claimed responsibility yet?

Its the fault of Brexit.

More from Nick Hurd, policing and fire minister, who said officials would carry out checks in buildings undergoing refurbishments similar to those carried out at the Grenfell Tower.

He said authorities discussed "a process whereby we seek to identify towers that might be in a similar process of refurbishment, run a system of checks and inspections, so that we can as quickly as possible give reassurance to people".

Big words given that the cause is not yet known.

[vetran]

You lack the imagination to be a really sick puppy.

luckily!

[GJABS]

There is some truth to this, because had the building been owned and operated by a private company with a brand, such as Virgin for example, then it is very much in the financial interest of the company to prevent fires or other similar problems from occurring. This is because of the huge loss of money resulting from the reputational damage to the company.

Whereas if the building is owned by the public sector, the inevitability of corruption and back handers results in a reduction in safety.

[eek]

Just occurred to me this time the individual won't be found as they would have learnt from Dame Shirley Porter about what not to do.

The councillors knew what to do the housing department is an arms length organisation allowing the council to be protected.

It also meant that both the council and housing department could delay and ignore complaints by blaming each other. That bit will no longer wash.

[shaunbhoy]

eh you've all lost me

Milan.

Milan in "epitaph authoring" mode

[PurpleGorilla]

That will teach them to vote Labour

Thought this was interesting data:

[SueEllen]

The councillors knew what to do the housing department is an arms length organisation allowing the council to be protected.

It also meant that both the council and housing department could delay and ignore complaints by blaming each other. That bit will no longer wash.

Part of it is to do with the government. Housing trusts where promised and given more money than being owned straight by the council. It was all to do with the ideology of having no social housing in public hands. That changed in the last couple of years so it makes no difference.

Anyway the directors of the Housing Trust or construction company can be done under H&S legislation depending what the fault is.

Though it is likely the government will bury this report as well in a fear no company will take on refurbishment of tower blocks.

I don't know why they don't do what Labour started - knock them down and start again. It is well known those tower blocks are dodgy since Ronan Point collapsed. They were all put up in a hurry.