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Syria - bit quick off the mark?

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    Syria - bit quick off the mark?

    When you get major incidents with loss of life over here, investigations into the causes drag on for months, years or even decades. Yet, 2 days after a supposed gas attack by Syrian forces, when there is nobody on the ground checking the facts, an armed US response.

    Justified, some may say, but can anyone really be reasonably sure, after so short a time, that it was not due to a rebel held stockpile being hit as Russia claims?

    Hmmmm. Maybe, that's the solution to armed conflicts. Lots and lots of international complex rules, long investigations and masses of form filling before any armed response is allowed. We can call it the Hillsborough Rule. By the time we get an answer we will have forgotten what the conflict is about and won't be bothered anymore. HMRC could be put in charge of the UN, they'd do a good job!
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    When you get major incidents with loss of life over here, investigations into the causes drag on for months, years or even decades. Yet, 2 days after a supposed gas attack by Syrian forces, when there is nobody on the ground checking the facts, an armed US response.

    Justified, some may say, but can anyone really be reasonably sure, after so short a time, that it was not due to a rebel held stockpile being hit as Russia claims?

    Hmmmm. Maybe, that's the solution to armed conflicts. Lots and lots of international complex rules, long investigations and masses of form filling before any armed response is allowed. We can call it the Hillsborough Rule. By the time we get an answer we will have forgotten what the conflict is about and won't be bothered anymore. HMRC could be put in charge of the UN, they'd do a good job!
    It is worse than that. There is no on-the-ground intelligence and accusations stem from videos posted on Facebook by ISIS. Accusations are also made by the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights which is a one-man band based in a council house in Coventry.
    "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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      #3
      Originally posted by Paddy View Post
      There is no on-the-ground intelligence
      What makes you assume that?

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        #4
        It is probably a last throw of the dice from the rebels to get some kind of help from USA in its fight against Assad. During Obama, they tried it and did not succeed. What has Assad got to profit from using chemical weapons? He has taken control back from majority of the areas and can defeat the rebels easily with conventional weapons.
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          #5
          Originally posted by vwdan View Post
          What makes you assume that?
          He was talking personally.

          HTH

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            #6
            Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
            When you get major incidents with loss of life over here, investigations into the causes drag on for months, years or even decades. Yet, 2 days after a supposed gas attack by Syrian forces, when there is nobody on the ground checking the facts, an armed US response.
            Politicians who are not having much success at home will eagerly engage in international politics. Trump needs to show he's strong, can act quickly, and can deliver results. He's not having much success at home so he's happy to pull the trigger elsewhere. It's a distraction.
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              #7
              Originally posted by squarepeg View Post
              Politicians who are not having much success at home will eagerly engage in international politics. Trump needs to show he's strong, can act quickly, and can deliver results. He's not having much success at home so he's happy to pull the trigger elsewhere. It's a distraction.

              Are you suggesting that the CIA was somehow responsible for using the chemical weapons?
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                #8
                It's very fishy - US ambassador to the UN saying they will act unilaterally if the UN doesn't. Whatever did or didn't happen we know that Saddam WMD claim was false and the previous accusation of Assad using chemical weapons was also false.

                So there is form on making this stuff up to invade middle east countries - just saying like...

                It's looking like a PR stunt from Trump trying to deflect all this Russia link stuff and not wanting appear 'weak' like Obama.

                Seems very hasty and not thought out and also like the deep state neocons have taken over... What happens now?
                "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by fullyautomatix View Post
                  It is probably a last throw of the dice from the rebels to get some kind of help from USA in its fight against Assad. During Obama, they tried it and did not succeed. What has Assad got to profit from using chemical weapons? He has taken control back from majority of the areas and can defeat the rebels easily with conventional weapons.
                  Exactly. Just because Assad may be a power hungry politician (very much like our own), doesn't mean he is stupid. He managed to turn the tide against ISIS despite the constant flow of arms to them (whether directly from Saudi/Turkey etc or indirectly via other "rebel groups"). The whole world wanted to see him toppled yet he managed to cling on and continue his own fight against genuine real terrorism.
                  Last edited by NorthWestPerm2Contr; 7 April 2017, 09:59.

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                    #10
                    A bad feeling about this.
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