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Jeremy Corbyn suggests maximum earnings limit
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Originally posted by fullyautomatix View PostI agree with that and Corbyn is the only politician who can drive this. We need to ensure everybody in the country has a minimum income coming in and it should be revised with inflation. This should be funded by increased taxation. The taxation levels are a disgrace at the moment.
It would cost hundreds of billions+ to give everyone say £18k a year and even that won't be enough for many.
Better to fix large company taxation/enforcement so we actually collect some.
And of course the other issue - look what happened when we last provided 'top up' in work benefits. Everyone ends up on minimum wage because the state subsidises the companies.Last edited by Smartie; 10 January 2017, 12:53.Comment
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Originally posted by fullyautomatix View PostThe taxation levels are a disgrace at the moment.
Also, this has avoidance industry wet-dream written all over it. Unless he's proposing to place a limit on total income and capital gains (and some way to prevent it being deferred), as opposed to salary from employment specifically, all those "high earners" are going to avoid it very easily indeed.Comment
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Originally posted by Smartie View PostWon't work. We can't tax high enough to cover all benefits, particularly housing benefit. A minimum income should replace the benefits system to make efficiency savings.
It would cost hundreds of billions+ to give everyone say £18k a year and even that won't be enough for many.
Better to fix large company taxation/enforcement so we actually collect some.
And of course the other issue - look what happened when we last provided 'top up' in work benefits. Everyone ends up on minimum wage because the state subsidises the companies.
While it's financially better to remain on the dole, there's no incentive for vast swathes of lazy bell-ends to work.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostPerhaps he should suggest that big businesses pay their fair taxes and that the same HMRC rules are applied across the board - to politicians, corporate directors as well as the smaller businesses that are currently being hit.
He might find he picks up a few disgruntled Tory voters.
Originally posted by LondonManc View PostThe ones that want to see Premier League football continue at a standard where players aren't stuck to earning less than £19,000 per week while the rest of the world happily pays much more, bankrupting our football clubs and leading to mass redundancies across the country in both football clubs and the peripheral businesses.
Scooterscot to the rescue yet again.
Fans often have a love-hate relationship with their team. The fact their team is made up of millionaires with beautiful hair who despise the working class fans wouldn't be hard to play on surelyOriginally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostThe ideal situation is that anyone working at least 20 hours per week is better off than anyone not doing so; that includes means-tested prescriptions and so on. That, though, relies on honesty about income, which many people don't have and which people who are paid cash in hand will never choose to do.
While it's financially better to remain on the dole, there's no incentive for vast swathes of lazy bell-ends to work.
This will only get worse with the rise of AI taking an ever larger share of jobs over the next 20 years.
There are a whole raft of measures required including pushing jobs out to the regions via incentives which would also ease pressure on London's housing market. Better lifetime education and free university education for subjects requiring actual degrees such as hard sciences.
In the end though, we're going to need to address the issue of multi-national corporations owning both the capital AND means of labour. Somehow, states will need to get control of the profits from AI labour in order to provide services. Without this, capitalism will fail due to lack of customers - no work and no benefits = no money.Comment
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Oi, he clearly said EARNINGS!
You can still have unearned income, you capitalism pigs!
Taxed at 98% rate...Comment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostI don't think most Labour voters would mind this. You just spin it as making football less about corporate interest, obscene salaries and rich foreigners making money out of the beautiful game and focus on how it will mean English teams will end up full of English players again.
Originally posted by d000hg View PostFans often have a love-hate relationship with their team. The fact their team is made up of millionaires with beautiful hair who despise the working class fans wouldn't be hard to play on surely
As for players despising fans, they appreciate them, believe me. I've met a fair few professionals and only a small minority had disappeared up their own behinds but they're generally the ones in it for the money rather than the success anyway.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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And there's the rub. Privatised football is big business, big to the point that the nationalised version is a joke.
The national team in England will only improve when the private teams start to play with more local players, stop bringing in immigrants to do jobs that Brits could do, and stop suckling on Murdoch's teat.…Maybe we ain’t that young anymoreComment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostYou clearly haven't a clue about football (but we figured that out in the previous paragraph). Fans don't have a love-hate relationship with their team at all. For most, it's the ultimate brand loyalty. If Nescafe go under, people would buy Douwe Egberts instead - if your club goes under, you would never feel the same affection for another team (and I'm not including the glory hunters who are now Man City fans who previously were Chelsea fans and probably Arsenal fans before that).
As for players despising fans, they appreciate them, believe me. I've met a fair few professionals and only a small minority had disappeared up their own behinds but they're generally the ones in it for the money rather than the success anyway.
The tension between players and supporters goes both ways at the top level.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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