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    #11
    I think I read on immigration boards that language lessons aren't free (anymore) to immigrants in UK, seems there's profit to be made assimilating people....

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      #12
      Originally posted by vetran View Post
      New job as Devil's advocate.

      This has been previously been suggested by others and they were accused of Xenophobia & Racism. ...
      Examples?

      I've always been in favour of the idea - especially for people who wish to settle in the UK.
      Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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        #13
        I'm not really getting the swearing an Oath bit. Being able to integrate requires a change to or at least an appreciation of our culture. I'm pretty sure swearing oaths and it's importance (arguable) are well down the list of understanding or caring.

        Totally agree with LondonMac though, integration is a difficult and emotive subject so why not look at 'ability to work' which is quite a bit more tangible. If you are unable to communicate to a point you can either work or learn to work you're gone. Difficult to argue you are coming to better your life when you don't have or want the tools to make that happen.
        'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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          #14
          Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
          I'm not really getting the swearing an Oath bit. Being able to integrate requires a change to or at least an appreciation of our culture. I'm pretty sure swearing oaths and it's importance (arguable) are well down the list of understanding or caring.

          Totally agree with LondonMac though, integration is a difficult and emotive subject so why not look at 'ability to work' which is quite a bit more tangible. If you are unable to communicate to a point you can either work or learn to work you're gone. Difficult to argue you are coming to better your life when you don't have or want the tools to make that happen.
          That assumes that they actually give a toss about integrating.
          The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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            #15
            Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
            That assumes that they actually give a toss about integrating.
            Indeed, and and oath certainly isn't going too change that.
            'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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              #16
              Originally posted by d000hg View Post
              Most middle-class Brits aren't integrated into any community let alone beyond their community... so why do foreigners have to?

              English Ex-pats remain English in a foreign country, often proudly and rigidly so. So when foreigners come here why is that different?

              How many immigrants don't speak any English, or rather don't end up learning English after a few years? Are there any reliable facts on this?

              I don't think the problem is immigrants not integrating, it's simply the sheer numbers involved.

              (also it's certainly not racist)
              What the British do when they Emigrate is up to their host countries. If Spain are happy with the Costa del crime & Costa Del Boy then fine.

              If it becomes an issue I'm sure they will change.

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                #17
                It's a bad sign assuming that the immigrants doesn't want to integrate in the society or learn English, and cases were after trying to integreate they are pushed back for whatever reason.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                  Examples?

                  I've always been in favour of the idea - especially for people who wish to settle in the UK.
                  https://www.theguardian.com/politics...npolicy.policy

                  that should do!


                  The introduction of English language tests for skilled migrants from outside Europe next year was last night branded "lace curtain racism" by community leaders.
                  The tests are to be introduced alongside a new draft immigration bill to be unveiled in today's Queen's speech that is designed to simplify the confusing jigsaw of rules and regulations that have been introduced over the past decade.

                  The language tests will be phased in from next spring as part of the introduction of an Australian-style immigration points system. It will mean that most migrants coming to Britain to do skilled or highly skilled jobs will have to demonstrate that they have an acceptable level of English before they come. Home Office ministers are also considering whether similar language tests should be applied in family reunion cases.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
                    Why do you think it's racist?
                    Because he is only saying foreigners need to learn English, not the Cornish or Scousers
                    Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
                    I can't see any way to do it can you please advise?

                    I want my account deleted and all of my information removed, I want to invoke my right to be forgotten.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by vetran View Post
                      ...lace curtain racism...
                      Bet someone got a pat on the back for coming up with that one.

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