So I think its finally dawned on IPSE's management

[eek]

That I have better access to the Government than they do....

[jonnyboy]

One of two things need to happen...

1) IPSE wake up, smell the coffee, and get working on something.
2) IPSE fold up shop and put up a "Closed, sorry we let you all down" notice

I am a IPSE member, and I am shocked how little they are doing. Just now, they tweeted a "have you used our IR35 contract review service" tweet.... rather than "All change". They cant exist just on running freelancer money events (with the same 5 companies attending) .

On the basis that they were formed to fight IR35, so far, I would rate them a solid 0.2 out of ten for effort on the latest IR35 changes.

[SueEllen]

That I have better access to the Government than they do....

Harsh but....

[teapot418]

That I have better access to the Government than they do....

Bravo. What did Theresa May say when you discussed it with her?

[teapot418]

Still, good that someone's getting some joy from today's news.

[eek]

Still, good that someone's getting some joy from today's news.

It's a little bit of schadenfreude albeit that it effects me as well - after them claiming multiple awards for the T&S battle that they equally comprehensively screwed up.

[teapot418]

It's a little bit of schadenfreude - after them claiming multiple awards for the T&S battle that they equally comprehensively screwed up.

So you're claiming responsibility for this failure? That's good of you.

[eek]

One of two things need to happen...

1) IPSE wake up, smell the coffee, and get working on something.
2) IPSE fold up shop and put up a "Closed, sorry we let you all down" notice

I am a IPSE member, and I am shocked how little they are doing. Just now, they tweeted a "have you used our IR35 contract review service" tweet.... rather than "All change". They cant exist just on running freelancer money events (with the same 5 companies attending) .

On the basis that they were formed to fight IR35, so far, I would rate them a solid 0.2 out of ten for effort on the latest IR35 changes.

To an extent that is unfair as this battle was last before the consultation document came out.

The battle ground now should be to get employee rights for those in a Public Sector contract using CL1's own documentation guidance and the Uber ruling. Fighting for the right to be Freelance isn't the correct battle, fighting to be treated in the exact same way as permanent staff is the approach that needs to be taken.

Battle 2 is then to get employees to use the Equality Act 2010 to reclaim income they should have been paid due to performing tasks of equal importance to the contractors who have just been given employee rights.

End result £440m in lost income creates a £10bn additional salary bill.

[eek]

So you're claiming responsibility for this failure? That's good of you.

Nope - I did nothing at all when this consultation came out. See my post above. This attack was years in the planning...

[teapot418]

Nope - I didn't nothing at all when this consultation came out. See my post above. This was attack was years in the planning...

So if you've got exclusive access to the right people, why didn't you use that to stop this?

All very well having a pop at IPSE for failing, but at least they tried. If you have the ability to change things, and don't bother, that's less defensible.