So I think its finally dawned on IPSE's management

[SimonMac]

At best VAT is utterly irrelevant to any IR35 argument. At worst it leaves the rest of the consultation response being treated as ill-informed gibberish...

Looking at the contempt with which IPSE's arguments were listened to I suspect the latter is what happened.

Given that HMRC also ignored everyone else as part of the consultation, maybe its not IPSE that in ineffective, but HMRC are stubborn?

[eek]

Come on, you aren't seriously suggesting you want to be an employee of the brolly/agency AND still pretend to be a business? You can't even claim flat rate VAT or expenses any more. How many people are going to do this? Seriously?

I don't want to be a employee which is why I'm now well away from the public sector.

[Fred Bloggs]

I don't want to be a employee which is why I'm now well away from the public sector.

Good on you. I went the other way. I don't want to pay the tax. There are no contracts for me. So I became an employee again. But not in the UK.