Virtue signalling foul mouthed songstress

[vetran]

And today

Calais teen refugee who met Lily Allen reveals how he was kidnapped by insurgents | Daily Mail Online

Asked what he thought about British military attacks on the Taliban in the country, he beamed and said: 'I was happy.'

The son of a vegetable seller, Shamsher grew up in Jalalabad, the capital of the Nangarhar province in the East of Afghanistan, which is dominated by Taliban fighters. He said: 'My family were threatened many times by the Taliban.


After learning of his struggle to reach Britain, Allen said: 'We've bombed your country, put you in the hands of the Taliban and now put you in danger of risking your life to get into our country. I apologise on behalf of my country. I'm sorry for what we have put you through'

After learning of his struggle to reach Britain, Allen said: 'We've bombed your country, put you in the hands of the Taliban and now put you in danger of risking your life to get into our country. I apologise on behalf of my country. I'm sorry for what we have put you through'

'We have to take responsibility': Lily Allen after Calais visit

'They kidnapped me and brought me to the Taliban training centre and gave me jobs to try to make me a fighter. They target children.'

In their desperation to flee, his family sold their home to raise the funds to escape from the area.

The singer's comments provoked an online backlashe Middle East to Islamic State. The 31-year-old wrote on Twitter: 'Isis kill innocent people by the way, they cause horrific pain and destruction across the world, so do we. I'm sorry for that.'

The singer's comments provoked an online backlash, but she went further when she compared British action in the Middle East to Islamic State

Shamsher left Afghanistan about nine months ago and began a gruelling six-month trek halfway across the globe.

He walked most of the journey, but he also used about £5,400 to take buses, motorbikes and cars as he travelled through Pakistan, Iraq, Turkey, Bulgaria, Serbia, Hungary, Austria and Italy before finally arriving in France three months ago.

[DodgyAgent]

Again in the Telegraph today:

Sorry, Lily Allen, but you're wrong: people worried about immigration have nothing to apologise for

But while her tears were understandable, the comments, in which she “apologised on behalf of my country” for the plight of the children – blaming our military intervention in Afghanistan and our cold-hearted xenophobia – were less so.

She was, of course, merely repeating the canards of her arty liberal chums, who – despite never venturing outside their own intellectual and social cosmos – are sure that everyone who doesn’t see the world as they do, and especially anyone who voted for Brexit, is a bigoted fool.

To reduce the web of direness behind the ongoing migration surge to a simple matter of Western culpability is plainly idiotic. It shows painfully limited understanding of the catalogue of political and human horrors that predated, and indeed motivated, Western intervention in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Will an influx of refugees make it harder to get school places, GP appointments, jobs? These questions should be answered properly
And to weepily lay the situation in Calais purely at Britain’s door was a severe misfiring of sentimentality. Crying in the face of human suffering is one thing. But crying on national TV while telling the audience that their country – merely by trying to control its borders – is cruelly causing the misery of innocents is quite another.

It’s not that Britain has no history of racism relating to immigration. In 1968, Enoch Powell suggested blood would flow because of Commonwealth immigration. In the 1970s, the National Front was the best-organised fascist group Europe. Attacks on Jews and other minorities were commonplace.

Watch the touching moment six underage migrants finally leave Calais for the UKPlay! 00:37
Things are far from perfect today, but they have certainly improved, and Britain’s desire to control its borders does not simply equate to base racism. Nor – despite left-liberal consensus – does it mean that those who are worried about what an influx of refugees will mean for them are beyond the moral pale. Will it make it harder to get school places, GP appointments, jobs? These questions should be answered properly: not simply boomeranged back with sneering innuendo about those who ask them.

Unsurprisingly, some people watching the the spread of murderous Islamism in Europe have concerns about the arrival of thousands of refugees from Islamic countries. Their fears should be answered seriously, calmly and constructively; blaming the scenes in Calais on them is hardly helpful.

Immigration – from Europe, the Middle East, Asia, wherever – can recharge a whole country, adding vitality and dynamism if handled correctly. Heading down a xenophobic rabbithole helps nobody, but Britain should be able to consider border control without being written off as a nation of heartless racist half-wits by people such as Lily Allen.

If we get immigration right, things will only get better. But as long as the debate is dominated by Left-wingers for whom the very mention of border control reeks of racist hysteria, there are going to be many more tears ahead.

What is happening here is that the liberal left are turning situations like this into proving something about themselves rather than getting to grips with the problem in any sort of meaningful way.
So the question I asked one of those individuals on here yesterday which was "if you feel so strongly that Britain has a responsibility to take in these refugees where would you put them?" remained unanswered. OK in true frivolous style "Scotland" was the answer . However the question remains unanswered.

[Big Blue Plymouth]

My sister in law fits into this school of thought, unfortunately and she's a classic example of somebody suffering from cognitive dissonance;

on the migrant issue - if you have concerns about the doors being opened to potential rapists you're a racist bigot...

...then, from the feminist philosophy she ascribes to, it's ok to assume all (white) males are potential rapists

Frightening thing is, she's a headteacher.

[NotAllThere]

My sister in law fits into this school of thought, unfortunately and she's a classic example of somebody suffering from cognitive dissonance;

on the migrant issue - if you have concerns about the doors being opened to potential rapists you're a racist bigot...

...then, from the feminist philosophy she ascribes to, it's ok to assume all (white) males are potential rapists

Frightening thing is, she's a headteacher.

If your main concern over immigration is that it opens the door to potential rapists, then you probably are a racist bigot, since such a concern is usually rooted in the xenophobic idea that immigrants are bunch of uncivilised thugs who just want to know:


My main concern over immigration is whether immigrants will conform to our culture and laws, or expect us to kowtow to theirs. I'm also concerned that immigration should only be available for people who will benefit the country.

[Big Blue Plymouth]

If your main concern over immigration is that it opens the door to potential rapists, then you probably are a racist bigot, since such a concern is usually rooted in the xenophobic idea that immigrants are bunch of uncivilised thugs who just want to know:


My main concern over immigration is whether immigrants will conform to our culture and laws, or expect us to kowtow to theirs. I'm also concerned that immigration should only be available for people who will benefit the country.

No. It is not my main concern with immigration.

However, it is a concern regarding the huge numbers of young men heading for places like Calais. These people are often brutalised by their experiences & God knows what sort of baggage some of them are carrying.

I'm merely suggesting that their potential for rape and other serious crimes should be acknowledged.

But for you to twist my words into something I didn't even say makes you just as bad as my SIL.

[Fronttoback]

My main concern over immigration is whether immigrants will conform to our culture

What culture is that then? Eastenders catchup on a Sunday? The drinking culture of a pint or two after work? Teenage pregnancies? The drug culture? The underclass? The decimation of the working class and their culture - replaced by benefit generations, drug zombies, the lumpen proletariat dragging their distended overused bellies to the dole office every week, for a free coffee and a catchup with granny.

There is no culture in the UK for 90% of Britons.

Places in Europe have culture. The UK doesn't.

Migrants bring culture to the UK, which has very little left.

[bobspud]

There is no culture in the UK for 90% of Britons.

Places in Europe have culture. The UK doesn't.

Migrants bring culture to the UK, which has very little left.

Is culture a code word for turning entire areas into a pigsty? In which case there are parts of Luton, London and the north that are extremely cultured thanks to immigrant populations and indigenous flight.

[Big Blue Plymouth]

What culture is that then? Eastenders catchup on a Sunday? The drinking culture of a pint or two after work? Teenage pregnancies? The drug culture? The underclass? The decimation of the working class and their culture - replaced by benefit generations, drug zombies, the lumpen proletariat dragging their distended overused bellies to the dole office every week, for a free coffee and a catchup with granny.

There is no culture in the UK for 90% of Britons.

Places in Europe have culture. The UK doesn't.

Migrants bring culture to the UK, which has very little left.

*cough*

The Beatles, Shelley, Shakespeare etc etc?

*cough*

[NotAllThere]

No. It is not my main concern with immigration....

Strange that, because it was the first issue you raised.

on the migrant issue - if you have concerns about the doors being opened to potential rapists you're a racist bigot..

Awfully close to this:

(Ivan S. RAPIST. Soon to be Swiss?)

If you use racist propaganda, designed to increase fear about immigration, then it's quite likely that even people who aren't into virtue signalling etc. might mistake you for a racist bigot

[Big Blue Plymouth]

Strange that, because it was the first issue you raised.

I meant in the context of this thread, i.e. the people in the Jungle etc. Not the wider immigration debate.