Proof that the Taliban read Shakespeare

[NotAllThere]

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To make reasonable fear of change or concerns over safety appear unpleasant it seems many people chant racism whenever someone a little different is involved.

Unfortunately, this is also the argument racists/xenophobes/Islamophobes use to cover their poisonous out-pourings. Thank goodness there's no-one like that here, hey?

[OwlHoot]

This is also worth a read, if the usual suspects can be rational for a while, and not follow the Islamic fundamentalists down the non-rational, emotional path

Mehdi Hasan: How Islamic is Islamic State?

I'll read the article later (no time just yet), but I assume it mentions that ISIS was founded and is still controlled by Iraqi ex-intelligence officers put out of a job when the Septics de-Baathified Iraq after the Second Gulf War.

Whether de-Baathification was a ghastly blunder depends on what US goals were and are, i.e. genuinely wishing to establish a stable democracy, as they claimed, versus destabilising the Middle East or Syria anyway.

[minestrone]

I'll read the article later (no time just yet), but I assume it mentions that ISIS was founded and is still controlled by Iraqi ex-intelligence officers put out of a job when the Septics de-Baathified Iraq after the Second Gulf War.

Whether de-Baathification was a ghastly blunder depends on what US goals were and are, i.e. genuinely wishing to establish a stable democracy, as they claimed, versus destabilising the Middle East or Syria anyway.

They started well before the Iraq invasion.

[vetran]

Unfortunately, this is also the argument racists/xenophobes/Islamophobes use to cover their poisonous out-pourings. Thank goodness there's no-one like that here, hey?

just going for a little balance and supporting those people who can only shout racism when they can't contribute usefully to a discussion. Luckily there are so few of those on here as well.

[cojak]

Its actually Islamophobia to be precise when we talk about fear of muslims.

Xenophobia is fear of those from different countries and possibly cultures.

Racism is specific to race - now how you define race then makes that so much more fun because everyone is apparently a different race. Including Travelers and the welsh.

To make reasonable fear of change or concerns over safety appear unpleasant it seems many people chant racism whenever someone a little different is involved.

I work on basic points. I just know that hurting innocent people by word or deed is wrong and lumping every muslim under this islamist violence banner is wrong.

Working on that basis gets me through the day.

[NotAllThere]

... versus destabilising the Middle East or Syria anyway.

That's always been the British approach - hence partition. Get Johnny Foreigner to fight among themselves and they'll be too busy to attack us. Obv. doesn't always work, but a few acts of terrorism keep the population cowed and the security services get to play.

[Bee]

The spaghetti monster is known to smite people who incorrectly prepare a carbonara sauce.

Racism to many covers all forms of xenophobia. On the other hand, when someone writes about Islam and also mentions the colour of skin of the majority of Muslims, then racism is probably correct. It's all fuelled by fear and hatred of the different, so does it really matter?

Wrong assumption.
The migrant are majority from Syria and they are considered Caucasian, they are not so white like the British (not so appeal to British) but they are white and not from a different race, except the Muslim from certain parts of Africa.

In my point of view the word racism it's wrongly applied

[minestrone]

Racism is a Marxist construct.

[NotAllThere]

Wrong assumption.
The migrant are majority from Syria and they are considered Caucasian, they are not so white like the British (not so appeal to British) but they are white and not from a different race, except the Muslim from certain parts of Africa.

In my point of view the word racism it's wrongly applied

Someone said something about "brown skin". Just addressing that.

If someone who expresses hatred towards Muslims is wrongly called a racist, does that change the fact that the person is nasty little ****, whose noxious spewings should be shut down?

Racism is a Marxist construct.

Hmm. Interesting set of results!

[northernladuk]

Wrong assumption.
The migrant are majority from Syria and they are considered Caucasian, they are not so white like the British (not so appeal to British) but they are white and not from a different race, except the Muslim from certain parts of Africa.

In my point of view the word racism it's wrongly applied

I get very confused with what the term of the day is. I thought the Syrians in the main were refugees where as all the North African and many other countries just looking for a better life were migrants?

We've got a local facebook group and a couple of people keep posting about collections for the refugees in Calais and the thread always descends in to chaos arguing over migrant/refugee and invariably ends up getting deleted.