[Merged]Brexit stuff

[scooterscot]

Why would they be entitled to reside after the contract? Once the work is done it's done.

Cause life gets in the way. People are not chips in monopoly board.

If I get a contract in Italy then I bear the costs of doing the work in the same way as I would do in London. Why should I be entitled to live in Italy after the work is complete?

You are entitled to remain as much as the next person for as long as you're contributing. Perhaps you've found an Italy Mistress who knows.

To be shown the door a week later after your contract is up, jeepers. Who in the right mind is ever going to come here and work in the first place?

[GB9]

Cause life gets in the way. People are not chips in monopoly board.



You are entitled to remain as much as the next person for as long as you're contributing. Perhaps you've found an Italy Mistress who knows.

To be shown the door a week later after your contract is up, jeepers. Who in the right mind is ever going to come here and work in the first place?

It would be the same both ways. Similar to most other non-EU nationals.

Movement should be attached to the service and not independently of it. If you have a piece of work to do, go and do it. Once it's done then head off to the next place. As contractors that is what we do all the time.

[NotAllThere]

By end of March 2017.

Thanks. I probably won't run out of popcorn then.

Re: staying at end of contract. The Swiss have a pragmatic approach for non-EU, which could apply to non-Brits post Brexit. If your job ends, you have 3 months to find another, then you must leave the country. However, once you've been in the country for a certain number of years, you are considered to be a permanent resident, and have all the rights of a Swiss citizen, except the right to vote.

[scooterscot]

Movement should be attached to the service and not independently of it.

I disagree. Not everyone works, whether retired or they just don't need to. Attaching service to movement is a hop, skip and a jump to ebbing away freedoms we're born with in effort for us to become widgets in a factory.

[darmstadt]

It would be the same both ways. Similar to most other non-EU nationals.

Movement should be attached to the service and not independently of it. If you have a piece of work to do, go and do it. Once it's done then head off to the next place. As contractors that is what we do all the time.

Well then all those old retired people in the south of Spain can **** off back to the UK and put more strain on the NHS which presumably is going to get rid of all it's foreign workers...

[barrydidit]

Thanks. I probably won't run out of popcorn then.

Re: staying at end of contract. The Swiss have a pragmatic approach for non-EU, which could apply to non-Brits post Brexit. If your job ends, you have 3 months to find another, then you must leave the country. However, once you've been in the country for a certain number of years, you are considered to be a permanent resident, and have all the rights of a Swiss citizen, except the right to vote.

Seems like a sensible approach. Any downsides to that? I imagine policing it could be onerous.

[GB9]

Well then all those old retired people in the south of Spain can **** off back to the UK and put more strain on the NHS which presumably is going to get rid of all it's foreign workers...

I would expect a visa system for old codgers.

I would expect a right of movement associated with a service.

I would expect an application for movement for everything else.

The Spanish may want lots of old codgers as long as they are self-sufficient, but the Spanish would have the right to decide. We may want lots of semi-retired Hungarian professors but we will decide.

[GB9]

I disagree. Not everyone works, whether retired or they just don't need to. Attaching service to movement is a hop, skip and a jump to ebbing away freedoms we're born with in effort for us to become widgets in a factory.

People only have the right of movement as part of the EU. Once we leave it will be much less of a right.

[stek]

People only have the right of movement as part of the EU. Once we leave it will be NOT a right at all.

FTFY.....

[BrilloPad]

So looks like March 2017 is the start date.....