[Merged]Brexit stuff

[The_Equalizer]

You know normally I would say Equalizer and SB are trolling.
But I have enough experience of CUK to know that what seems to be the most incredible, rankest, stupidity is probably genuine.

Yes dear.

[sirja]

And surely this would lead to the UK slapping on silly taxes on imports of German cars etc, neither which are in the interest of either party? If the EU were to put up such trade barriers, it's basically turning the EU into an internal market unless, of course, these draconian measures were solely for the UK. As is repeatedly pointed out on this forum, it's not a case of what might happen, it's a case of what is likely to happen ie beneficial for both parties.

eh, the EU already has trade barriers against non EU nations. I assume you have heard of the CPA? Of course the EU has always been about maximizing trade between its members first and foremost. For over 40 years we've gained from that, now we'll just have to deal with them like every other external nation. It just so happens that over 40% of our exports in goods and services go there

[GB9]

eh, the EU already has trade barriers against non EU nations. I assume you have heard of the CPA? Of course the EU has always been about maximizing trade between its members first and foremost. For over 40 years we've gained from that, now we'll just have to deal with them like every other external nation. It just so happens that over 40% of our exports in goods and services go there

Are you going to answer my previous questions or are you just coming on to claim the government have just realised the complexity but without telling us the impact in figures?

In other news, SAS demonstrates his usual bias towards the EU being all powerful without thinking about the reality of life.

Would we buy run of the mill German cars with a 10% tariff or would we buy something produced in the UK? Why would I spend an extra £12k tax on a porker. Or why would anyone spend an extra £2 or £3k on an audi or vw when equally good vehicles would be available? The German car manufacturers have already cut hours 'due to brexit' so the idea that they are immune to pricing or our economy is nonsense.

[darmstadt]

Would we buy run of the mill German cars with a 10% tariff or would we buy something produced in the UK? Why would I spend an extra £12k tax on a porker. Or why would anyone spend an extra £2 or £3k on an audi or vw when equally good vehicles would be available? The German car manufacturers have already cut hours 'due to brexit' so the idea that they are immune to pricing or our economy is nonsense.

Would a car in the UK still be as cheap as one imported with tariffs? I mean, where do the majority of the raw materials used in the building of a car come from? I suspect most of them come from outside of the UK and those from the EU will then have a tariff and those from outside of the EU would be cheaper than home grown products thus not providing much sustenance to local industries...

[sirja]

Are you going to answer my previous questions or are you just coming on to claim the government have just realised the complexity but without telling us the impact in figures?

In other news, SAS demonstrates his usual bias towards the EU being all powerful without thinking about the reality of life.

Would we buy run of the mill German cars with a 10% tariff or would we buy something produced in the UK? Why would I spend an extra £12k tax on a porker. Or why would anyone spend an extra £2 or £3k on an audi or vw when equally good vehicles would be available? The German car manufacturers have already cut hours 'due to brexit' so the idea that they are immune to pricing or our economy is nonsense.

eh, You Brexit it you own it.
It's you guys who want to leave the EU, it's you guys that promised the country that the UK would be in very strong position in any talks with the EU and it's you guys that said we should not listen to experts (Quite Ironic that Davies is now running around asking experts for their views). So it's for you Brexiters to go and find out the potential impacts of your folly.

[sasguru]

Nope, I meant per head.

Incorrect as usual.
Here's the latest data I could find:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...PP)_per_capita

By whatever measure you use, there are plenty of countries in the EU with a higher GDP per head than the UK.
If we take the 2 most populous, France has roughly the same GDP per head (as you'd expect from economies with a similar size and population) and Germany has a higher one. Austria, Finland, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg and surprisingly Ireland are higher on most measures.
As expected the Latin countries have lower.

I don't understand where you get your ideas of British economic superiority from - unless you're a brainwashed tabloid reader.

[sasguru]

If trade were to stop completely between the EU and the UK, the UK would lose half of it's exports and Germany would lose 10% of it's exports.

Guess who is in the the weaker negotiating position (hint it begins with U)

In other news, SAS demonstrates his usual bias towards the EU being all powerful without thinking about the reality of life.
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So you disagree with BB's figures?

[The_Equalizer]

Incorrect as usual.
Here's the latest data I could find:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...PP)_per_capita

By whatever measure you use, there are plenty of countries in the EU with a higher GDP per head than the UK.
If we take the 2 most populous, France has roughly the same GDP per head (as you'd expect from economies with a similar size and population) and Germany has a higher one. Austria, Finland, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg and surprisingly Ireland are higher on most measures.
As expected the Latin countries have lower.

I don't understand where you get your ideas of British economic superiority from - unless you're a brainwashed tabloid reader.

Nope, again. The point I was making was your 500 vs 65 million figure was you pulling incorrect figures out of thin air. As already stated that 500 million includes the UK, however, as you've kindly observed, a good percentage of that 500 million have lower (in some cases far lower) GDP than the UK.

As an aside, I was in a pub in Tunbridge Wells last Sunday. Some posh chap - and I mean proper posh - decided to join us. He was quite opinionated to start with and this grew in parallel with his consumption of beer and spirits. As I sat there, you briefly came to mind; although only baseless arrogance.

[darmstadt]

As an aside, I was in a pub in Tunbridge Wells last Sunday. Some posh chap - and I mean proper posh - decided to join us. He was quite opinionated to start with and this grew in parallel with his consumption of beer and spirits. As I sat there, you briefly came to mind; although only baseless arrogance.

Sounds more like your Nigel

[MrMarkyMark]

Nope, again. The point I was making was your 500 vs 65 million figure was you pulling incorrect figures out of thin air. As already stated that 500 million includes the UK, however, as you've kindly observed, a good percentage of that 500 million have lower (in some cases far lower) GDP than the UK.

As an aside, I was in a pub in Tunbridge Wells last Sunday. Some posh chap - and I mean proper posh - decided to join us. He was quite opinionated to start with and this grew in parallel with his consumption of beer and spirits. As I sat there, you briefly came to mind; although only baseless arrogance.

Hope it was, thinking of SAS out of the context of being logged on to this forum .

You should be ashamed of yourself, next time you will admit to dreaming about him