[Merged]Brexit stuff

[GB9]

Well, it's May's job to know what's best and if she rejects something, clearly in favour of something at least better, but she is not saying what it is.

Well the bloke responsible for Brexit says it's more rigorous than points only. And that its unlikely we will remain part of the single market.

[Stevie Wonder Boy]

You only have to look at Hillary Clinton's speeches to Wall Street and the eye-watering fees that were charged to understand where the power truly lies. If by the UK being part of the EU both they can gain both politically and financially as it suits the purposes of the likes of the Wall Street banks then I'd say that was reason enough to say that on balance they are likely to benefit. The establishment are only ever going to vote in their own interests for their post political career money making schemes.

Bit late to answer, but I think I'm getting it now ...

TTIP was the reason the USA wanted the UK in the EU, The UK will never sign a trade deal like that outside of the EU. Inside the EU they could just shrug and say, nothing to do with us. As it stands now it would actually be debated in the House of Commons and us plebs might want a say in what is agreed; hence the reason the vast majority of MP's were so pro-remain.

Face it being in the EU was about selling the UK down the river whist rafting along in their gold plated boats. The EU is economically in the tulipter and is getting worse, there can be no other reason to want to remain.

[scooterscot]

Face it being in the EU was about selling the UK down the river whist rafting along in their gold plated boats. The EU is economically in the tulipter and is getting worse, there can be no other reason to want to remain.

The Tories have sold off the family silver wherever they've found it. Our railways, our post office, utilities. At least Germany and France can still control theirs. The UK has sold itself down the river long ago without the help of the EU.

The EU might be facing difficulties. But the UK debt is the largest of all EU countries. I reckon EU will put up interest rates long before the UK ever does.

[DodgyAgent]

The Tories have sold off the family silver wherever they've found it. Our railways, our post office, utilities. At least Germany and France can still control theirs. The UK has sold itself down the river long ago without the help of the EU.

The EU might be facing difficulties. But the UK debt is the largest of all EU countries. I reckon EU will put up interest rates long before the UK ever does.

They are going to need it https://www.theguardian.com/society/...s-15bn-deficit

[AtW]

So what's your point?

They are betraying 2nd big Brexit side argument - "Australian like" points based immigration system for EU citizens, that's 2nd big item turned out to be a fraud.

They claim they are doing what the nation told them, but they are improvising as they go along.

[NotAllThere]

I don't think so. The "establishment" (which includes both Obama and Clinton) all want the UK to stay in the EU, because it suits their big-business chums and satisfies their craving for power...

It won't change. Liam Fox's team will ensure that big-business's interests are still put first, The question really is whether the 99% get less or more screwed after Brexit.

[DodgyAgent]

Well, it's May's job to know what's best and if she rejects something, clearly in favour of something at least better, but she is not saying what it is.

It doesn't have to be the best it has to be practical and serve the purpose

[AtW]

It doesn't have to be the best it has to be practical and serve the purpose

If they are rejecting key promise, why ain't they saying in favour of what they are rejecting it?

Oh wait, they are not ready to say it for some reason, so they have not done full analysis, but yet they are making decisions going contrary to what was PROMISED big time?

That's not democracy, this isn't even competent government.

[AtW]

The question really is whether the 99% get less or more screwed after Brexit.

Obviously they will be screwed a lot more to make up for lost profits from said big businesses.

[scooterscot]

They are going to need it https://www.theguardian.com/society/...s-15bn-deficit

Did you bother to read how much the English deficit has increased? Did that just slip you by?

"The British Government debt is rising due to a gap between revenue and expenditure. Total government revenue in the fiscal year 2015/16 was projected to be £673 billion, whereas total expenditure was estimated at £742 billion. Therefore, the total deficit was £69 billion."

rUK less the Scottish deficit, 69-15 = tulip loads