So much confusion

**NotAllThere** · 25 June 2016, 07:11

Suffering from hangover depression?

**scooterscot** · 25 June 2016, 07:24

Don't think i'm alone. A feeling that only mad worse when you start watching those bigoted interviews.

Theres only so much stupid you can take.

https://www.facebook.com/Channel4New...3842562976939/

**NotAllThere** · 25 June 2016, 08:05

Originally posted by scooterscot View Post

Don't think i'm alone. A feeling that only made worse when you start watching those bigoted interviews.

Theres only so much stupid you can take.

I guess you already gave up reading any Brexit related threads then.

**SueEllen** · 25 June 2016, 08:11

Cameron was gambling on his political future and failed.

I hope Johnson and Gove fail to plus Corbyn, who doesn't have leader attributes goes.

**BlasterBates** · 25 June 2016, 09:05

Originally posted by scooterscot View Post

All day yesterday we've been trying to make rational sense of the news without success. Our family is broken and our way life we've taken for granted pulled out from under our feet. Just profound sadness. I still can't quite believe it that the UK fell for the absurdities spouted from the likes of Farage, Johnson and Gove.

I'm lucky to be living in the EU but my heart goes out to all my friends and family that will now suffer in Scotland and indeed in the rest of the U.K. as a result of a weak prime minister who abdicated his elected responsibilities and asked a largely uninformed and misled nation to make this choice for him.

Don't worry Daniel Hannan is now proposing the freedom of movement of labour. This means probably the UK (or what is left of it) will end up as an "associate member", as the Germans seem to be proposing. I can see Scotland will end up as a full member.

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/sta...66834610692096 (thx to Old Greg in another thread)

His weasley words free movement of labour is almost indistinguishable from free movement of people. I came to Germany under the "free movement of labour" rules and it was just as easy to get a job as under the "free movement of people". The only difference was I couldn't claim social security from the beginning I had to qualify. So this will be no different from Cameron's concessions.

In conclusion, the UK will now split up and slowly become reamalgated into an EU in which Eurosceptics will have much less influence.

Basically the consequences will be you'll be issued with a residence permit automatically and after 5 years it will become permanent, i.e. the only thing you'll probably have to fear is two trips to the town hall, where your permit gets stamped. If the UK had voted to stay you would have in any case been barred from social security under the rules he proposed.

I can also imagine a future Labour government reintroducing the "free movement of people".

**DimPrawn** · 25 June 2016, 09:15

Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post

Don't worry Daniel Hannan is now proposing the freedom of movement of labour. This means probably the UK (or what is left of it) will end up as an "associate member", as the Germans seem to be proposing. I can see Scotland will end up as a full member.

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/sta...66834610692096 (thx to Old Greg in another thread)

His weasley words free movement of labour is almost indistinguishable from free movement of people. I came to Germany under the "free movement of labour" rules and it was just as easy to get a job as under the "free movement of people". The only difference was I couldn't claim social security from the beginning I had to qualify. So this will be no different from Cameron's concessions.

In conclusion, the UK will now split up and slowly become reamalgated into an EU in which Eurosceptics will have much less influence.

Basically the consequences will be you'll be issued with a residence permit automatically and after 5 years it will become permanent, i.e. the only thing you'll probably have to fear is two trips to the town hall, where your permit gets stamped. If the UK had voted to stay you would have in any case been barred from social security under the rules he proposed.

I can also imagine a future Labour government reintroducing the "free movement of people".

Well I hope the vast brexit voters realise voting LibLabCon is basically voting back in the same old elitist scum, so hopefully the next govt will be led by Mr Farage.

**Old Greg** · 25 June 2016, 09:17

Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post

Well I hope the vast brexit voters realise voting LibLabCon is basically voting back in the same old elitist scum, so hopefully the next govt will be led by a former commodities trader.

FTFY

**Old Greg** · 25 June 2016, 09:19

Originally posted by scooterscot View Post

All day yesterday we've been trying to make rational sense of the news without success. Our family is broken and our way life we've taken for granted pulled out from under our feet. Just profound sadness. I still can't quite believe it that the UK fell for the absurdities spouted from the likes of Farage, Johnson and Gove.

I'm lucky to be living in the EU but my heart goes out to all my friends and family that will now suffer in Scotland and indeed in the rest of the U.K. as a result of a weak prime minister who abdicated his elected responsibilities and asked a largely uninformed and misled nation to make this choice for him.

Scotland will leave UK.

**DimPrawn** · 25 June 2016, 09:23

Originally posted by Old Greg View Post

Scotland will leave UK.

It just gets better!

So much confusion