Brexit win - 11 threads into one

[DimPrawn]

The UK Parliament can repeal any law that it has made, thus any attempt to create a EU superstate could only include the UK if the UK Parliament consented, and the UK Parliament could subsequently withdraw its consent.

The veto is about he direction of the EU, not about whether the UK chooses to participate in the direction of the EU.

HTH

Utter crap. EU law is above UK law. It is illegal to not carry out the laws of the EU whilst a member.

In the same way that EU courts of law are above UK supreme courts.

[LondonManc]

The UK Parliament can repeal any law that it has made, thus any attempt to create a EU superstate could only include the UK if the UK Parliament consented, and the UK Parliament could subsequently withdraw its consent.

The veto is about he direction of the EU, not about whether the UK chooses to participate in the direction of the EU.

HTH

Cameron said in 2013 that Britain is exempt from any further bail-outs. Why then, in 2015, were we forced to lend £600m to Greece? He had secured a written agreement that we would not have to prop up a currency that we had chosen not to join. What happened? Take your time...

[Old Greg]

Utter crap. EU law is above UK law. It is illegal to not carry out the laws of the EU whilst a member.

In the same way that EU courts of law are above UK supreme courts.

If the UK Parliament repeals all laws that consent to the above, then the EU has no power over the UK. Of course the UK will then eject the UK from membership. This however does not negate the supremacy of the UK Parliament.

[LondonManc]

The UK Parliament can repeal any law that it has made, thus any attempt to create a EU superstate could only include the UK if the UK Parliament consented, and the UK Parliament could subsequently withdraw its consent.

The veto is about he direction of the EU, not about whether the UK chooses to participate in the direction of the EU.

HTH

Rubbish. You can think of us as a County FA under the Football Association; while we can have our own byelaws, we must obey theirs, such as the visa free movement of 1.5 million Turks. Not to mention the import licences on fine arts, which would lead to competitive disadvantage to London as a fine arts centre.

Any idea where we're heading with respect to a European Army, or are we going to be able to veto that too? (Big hint: Like f**k we will).

[vetran]

If the UK Parliament repeals all laws that consent to the above, then the EU has no power over the UK. Of course the UK will then eject the UK from membership. This however does not negate the supremacy of the UK Parliament.

so what you are saying is that while we are an EU members our laws are overruled by the EU while we are a member and if we want to rule ourselves again then we need to leave?

thought that was the point being made by the leavers?

Its a bit like being tied up and shafted by NLYUK , in theory you aren't actually supposed to be buggered but until you get the ropes off you can't do anything about it.

[Old Greg]

Rubbish. You can think of us as a County FA under the Football Association; while we can have our own byelaws, we must obey theirs, such as the visa free movement of 1.5 million Turks. Not to mention the import licences on fine arts, which would lead to competitive disadvantage to London as a fine arts centre.

Any idea where we're heading with respect to a European Army, or are we going to be able to veto that too? (Big hint: Like f**k we will).

So what do you think is the legal situation if the UK Parliament repeals the European Communities Act 1972 and all related subsequent legislation?

[jamesbrown]

The UK Parliament can repeal any law that it has made, thus any attempt to create a EU superstate could only include the UK if the UK Parliament consented, and the UK Parliament could subsequently withdraw its consent.

The veto is about he direction of the EU, not about whether the UK chooses to participate in the direction of the EU.

HTH

You'll love this.

[Old Greg]

so what you are saying is that while we are an EU members our laws are overruled by the EU while we are a member and if we want to rule ourselves again then we need to leave?

thought that was the point being made by the leavers?

Its a bit like being tied up and shafted by NLYUK , in theory you aren't actually supposed to be buggered but until you get the ropes off you can't do anything about it.

I am saying that no matter how far EU integration might go, the EU can withdraw at any point. So the Leave Project Fear (TM) EU superstate position loses its relevance. We can escape from any future developments at any point.

So rather than fear what the EU might become in the mind of the EUSSR wingnuts, we can think about what the EU is now and what the immediate direction of travel is.

[AtW]

I am saying that no matter how far EU integration might go, the EU can withdraw at any point. So the Leave Project Fear (TM) EU superstate position loses its relevance. We can escape from any future developments at any point.

Yes, like say by running a referendum to reject EU superstate IF it ever actually comes to that.

[The_Equalizer]

Yes, like say by running a referendum to reject EU superstate IF it ever actually comes to that.

It's like only putting your foot on the brakes IF you've crashed your car.