Brexit win - 11 threads into one

[vetran]

But we have "absolutely no idea" what Out looks like.

Maybe look at all those countries not in the EU then?

If we stay its the EUSSR, that is the plan.

If we leave its a new start free from EU directives & pettiness. The way our EU partners are talking is frankly scary they seem irrational.

[The_Equalizer]

Presumably one likely outcome is a Scottish referendum leading to independence and the potential subsequent annexation of Berwick. Then Wales will follow but with an English annexation of Monmouthshire. Scotland and Wales will join the EU, Schengen and the Eurozone leaving England + NI to either sign up to an agreement where they pay the EU and accept free movement of individuals in return to access to the free market, or bravely sail into freedom with customs and passport controls throughout these fair isles.

I think you'll find that Wales is more Brexit than you think. Currently 50/50. I've provided a link to the The Irish Times to make it feel familiar to you

Cardiff Letter: Where do the Welsh stand on Brexit divide? - The Irish Times

So that's just Scotland, unless of course you fancy taking on the marauding hordes in Northern Ireland.

[Chuck]

The way our EU partners are talking is frankly scary they seem irrational.

With every new threat, they are making themselves look ever more ridiculous.

It may be a bit glib to talk of the British bull-dog spirit, but I know that when someone is threatening me, to protect their vested interest, my instinct is often to do the opposite of what they want.

I'm surprised they can't recognise this.

[DimPrawn]

But we have "absolutely no idea" what Out looks like.

[The_Equalizer]

With every new threat, they are making themselves look ever more ridiculous.

It may be a bit glib to talk of the British bull-dog spirit, but I know that when someone is threatening me, to protect their vested interest, my instinct is often to do the opposite of what they want.

I'm surprised they can't recognise this.

Remainers seem to lack an affinity towards the UK. Just look at our CUK lot.

[dx4100]

It would seem the remain and the out campaign have swapped roles now on spouting total bulltulip....

[PurpleGorilla]

No one knows what will happen if the majority vote leave; the referendum isn't legally binding!

http://uk.businessinsider.com/green-...-brexit-2016-6

[VectraMan]

Maybe look at all those countries not in the EU then?

I hear Albania is nice this time of year. Or maybe Moldova?

[dx4100]

No one knows what will happen if the majority vote leave; the referendum isn't legally binding!

The EU referendum is not legally binding and can't force a Brexit - Business Insider

I think a total collapse of the government is more than possible before the exit trigger is pulled. Specially if its VERY tight. A lot of MPs careers are going to be untenable after it!

This would leave us with the most nasty general election in history. It could be a rerun of the referendum with all the usual issues.

Can they really take us out / keep us in on a 51/49 win ? I think unless there is a clear 10 point gap its going to lead to utter madness for a couple of years.

[VectraMan]

I think a total collapse of the government is more than possible before the exit trigger is pulled. Specially if its VERY tight. A lot of MPs careers are going to be untenable after it!

This would leave us with the most nasty general election in history. It could be a rerun of the referendum with all the usual issues.

Can they really take us out / keep us in on a 51/49 win ? I think unless there is a clear 10 point gap its going to lead to utter madness for a couple of years.

The great thing about a referendum is that the politicians don't have to take any responsibility. If I were David Cameron I'd pull the Brexit trigger the day after, not the waiting several years that Gove suggested, and bring in the emergency spending cuts and tax rises the day after that. Then he can shrug and say "that's what you wanted".