EU superstate

[dx4100]

Its quite laughable that so many apparently well educated well paid people are seriously trying to push the line that everything being promised by the out campaign is deliverable

Its almost as laughable as believing all the tulip coming out of Cameron's mouth

If its an OUT vote, we will compromise with the EU. The idea we will stop freedom of movement AND not have to agree to import tariffs with the like of Africa AND not have to agree to mountains of EU regulations AND pay nothing into the EU (etc etc etc) is frankly laughable...

We will have compromise in some areas and win concessions in others. To say we will get it all is frankly a demeaning suggestion to make to anyone more than a college level of Education.

[DodgyAgent]

I don't think they would... But to also claim we are going to have all the cake and get to it is just as mind numbingly dumb as well...

I think we will get a "fair" deal... What you think is a "fair" deal though is just laughable

If you think we are going to get all the gravy being promised by the out campaign you are in the clouds. Their hard line will never see a reality. Future British government's will have to agree to accept large parts of EU regulations, you can't get a trade deal without one. Or do you have little understanding of what a trade deal is ?

here's the last man to negotiate trade deals for the UK. See what he says

The truth about Britain's trade outside the European Union*

How important are trade deals? It pains me to admit – their importance is grossly exaggerated. Countries succeed, with or without trade deals, if they produce goods and services other countries want.

Tariffs between developed countries now average low single figures – small beer compared with recent movements in exchange rates. The most worthwhile trade agreements are with fast-growing developing countries which still have high tariffs.


Is our net £10 billion contribution to the EU a price worth paying for tariff-free access to the EU market? If we left the EU with no trade deal – inconceivable given the tariff-free zone from Iceland to Turkey – our exports would face EU tariffs averaging just 2.4 per cent.

[vetran]

We still love you

I promise to do that thing you like with bratwurst if you stay.

Please don't leave you WILL REGRET IT, I WILL CUT YOUR TROUSERS UP IF YOU LEAVE

FTFY

[Mordac]

watch it last night Yvette Balls up was saying we are only 17% of their exports so they won't care and will shaft us, that's why we should vote remain. Its a bit like staying with a flaky girlfriend because she threatens to take a pair of scissors to your entire wardrobe before scratching your car.


Chris Grayling was trying not to laugh.

What was that prog? I cannot help but laugh whenever I see Yvette Ballsup. Trouble is, whenever she opens her gob, I do tend to cry...

[vetran]

What was that prog? I cannot help but laugh whenever I see Yvette Ballsup. Trouble is, whenever she opens her gob, I do tend to cry...

LBC

http://www.lbc.co.uk/yvette-cooper--...-at-6pm-132151

Grayling was having the same problem.

[Mordac]

Its quite laughable that so many apparently well educated well paid people are seriously trying to push the line that everything being promised by the out campaign is deliverable

I doubt anyone supporting Leave thinks for a moment it is all deliverable. We are mostly pragmatic, and know and expect will have to take some good, some bad. Much of the good is not being beholden to a bunch of unelected (or should that be unelectable) chunts who wake up every morning wondering how best to shaft us. After they've collected their mahoosive daily allowances and filled in their fictional expense claims, natch.

[Mordac]

LBC

Cooper Vs Grayling. Watch LBC's EU Debate Back | LBC

Cheers, and thank God it's radio, that means I don't have to look at her - my corsets are all at the dry cleaners...

[vetran]

Cheers, and thank God it's radio, that means I don't have to look at her - my corsets are all at the dry cleaners...

its with the cameras on, so between being blinded by Mr Shiny and the Harpie it is pretty bad.

[AtW]

!. Decide on who it allows into its own country
2. Who it trades with
3. Working time directive

Those are three just off the top of my head. How's your fortress going?

1. UK already does so - it was decided to allow EU citizens, in some cases they can be stopped if they present danger to society, basically at a whim of Home Secretary.
2. UK trades who it likes to, except those under US sanctions... where is your sovereignty now?
3. Working time directive is fine: work to live, not live to work.

[scooterscot]

I doubt anyone supporting Leave thinks for a moment it is all deliverable. We are mostly pragmatic, and know and expect will have to take some good, some bad. Much of the good is not being beholden to a bunch of unelected (or should that be unelectable) chunts who wake up every morning wondering how best to shaft us. After they've collected their mahoosive daily allowances and filled in their fictional expense claims, natch.

You mean like this guy?

Former Ukip MEP jailed over £500k expenses fraud - Telegraph

It'll be lovely to have him back.