EU superstate

[Mordac]

its with the cameras on, so between being blinded by Mr Shiny and the Harpie it is pretty bad.

Thanks for the warning, much appreciated

[vetran]

1. UK already does so - it was decided to allow EU citizens, in some cases they can be stopped if they present danger to society, basically at a whim of Home Secretary.
2. UK trades who it likes to, except those under US sanctions... where is your sovereignty now?
3. Working time directive is fine: work to live, not live to work.

2 wrong.

[Mordac]

You mean like this guy?

Former Ukip MEP jailed over £500k expenses fraud - Telegraph

It'll be lovely to have him back.

Well, vote Leave, and we'll not only have no more MEPs, we'll have no more UKIP either. Sounds like a perfect Win Win scenario to me. Welcome to the fold, Scooty. Happy to have you on board.

[xoggoth]

I find it strange that people on here who are always calling the other side unthinking cretins etc. never actually respond when anyone from the other side posts something that is a logical argument or a fact.

DA's post above, for example, on how small many trade tariffs can actually be compared to currency fluctuations. If we do not negotiate a deal with them, the US tariffs on British cars, for example, will only be 2.5%

Anyone capable of responding to facts on CUK? Hello?

[scooterscot]

It's a dire state of affairs.

But then look at the US, they've elected two candidates each as scary as the other. Democracy has clearly failed us on some level.

[DodgyAgent]

1. UK already does so - it was decided to allow EU citizens, in some cases they can be stopped if they present danger to society, basically at a whim of Home Secretary.
2. UK trades who it likes to, except those under US sanctions... where is your sovereignty now?
3. Working time directive is fine: work to live, not live to work.

1. The UK is obliged to allow every EU citizen into the Uk do you really think it checks the criminal record of every eastern/western European coming here. If it refuses the UK leaves itself open to litigation
2. UK trades through the EU
3. And you may think the working time directive is a good thing but the point is that it was not the Uks decision to create it.

Keep that fortress manned at all times - whatever you do - do not acquiesce on any point

[DodgyAgent]

It's a dire state of affairs.

But then look at the US, they've elected two candidates each as scary as the other. Democracy has clearly failed us on some level.

In your opinion - which is of zero importance to the USA

[AtW]

2 wrong.

UK won't sell tulip to EU unless it complies with EU laws.

What's coming in the not so distance future are extra tariffs on products created in countries with unfair not level playing field with EU - like lack of pension system in country, or 12 hour shifts, lack of safety etc: all that should and will be penalized with higher import tariffs.

Post Brexit UK will be on the receiving end of that - them children digging coal, if you know what I mean.

[scooterscot]

In your opinion - which is of zero importance to the USA

There you have it. You heard it here first. Free speech to be outlawed upon Brexit.

[vetran]

UK won't sell tulip to EU unless it complies with EU laws.

What's coming in the not so distance future are extra tariffs on products created in countries with unfair not level playing field with EU - like lack of pension system in country, or 12 hour shifts, lack of safety etc: all that should and will be penalized with higher import tariffs.

Post Brexit UK will be on the receiving end of that - them children digging coal, if you know what I mean.

Strange with my fifth biggest customer I never asked them to jump through hoops as a supplier.

The EU is dying, we will trade with the rest of the world. They can wake up if they want.