EU referendum: Boris and Gove pledge tough new immigration system after Brexit

[minestrone]

It makes you wonder though, there are far more immigrants in Germany and France yet I can make an appointment to see my GP or dentist for tomorrow although a specialist might take a couple of days...

Yes, let's start charging for appointments and prescriptions.

See how far a politician gets with that idea.

[SueEllen]

Speaking of GPs, your average one has about 1500 patients, that means the NHS has to find an extra 250 GPs every year with this level of migration, but they can't.

GP services are absolutely crippled right now and it gets worse every year. What is the wait for an appointment at your local surgery, 7 days? 14?

But of course the country can take this level of migration, right?

If you are an emergency you get an on the day appointment. Most GP appointments are now that type due to Nu Labour..

If you are booking an appointment the receptionists decide it's not urgent and will schedule in 3 to 4 weeks away. Yet if they phone you they can fit you in 3-14 days depending what it is for.

Unfortunately with the NHS you need to learn to play the system. It's developed for the staff ease rather than your ease.

[minestrone]

There is a school near me, 230 children, not one is a UK national.

Is that healthy? A ghetto of self segregating EU nationals?

[SueEllen]

There is a school near me, 230 children, not one is a UK national.

Is that healthy? A ghetto of self segregating EU nationals?

Whose fault is that? The migrants don't flee British nationals do.

Btw you are aware that lots of Somalians who came here as refugees are British nationals?

[SueEllen]

If France is so great why do migrants not want to stay there?

They have ID cards and a contributory benefits system.

The first British people refuse to have due to WWII but the second MPs refuse to legislate for.

[dx4100]

If you are an emergency you get an on the day appointment. Most GP appointments are now that type due to Nu Labour..

If you are booking an appointment the receptionists decide it's not urgent and will schedule in 3 to 4 weeks away. Yet if they phone you they can fit you in 3-14 days depending what it is for.

Unfortunately with the NHS you need to learn to play the system. It's developed for the staff ease rather than your ease.

My GP doesn't work that way....

I think sometimes there is a danger of someone's personal experience being presented as a national norm...

My GP you can book an appointment on the day, first come first served... If you miss out on these, and I have only once, then you can plead your case for an emergency appointment. I know for a fact only about 5% of appointments are held back for these at my local surgery. You can book an appointment for weeks later for routine things like taking bloods and so on.

Other options where I live is to phone 111 and go through that system and get an appointment at the "walk in centre" which is basically a big GP surgery at the hospital, or one of the other ones around town.

I find there is a lot being put in place to try and stop people having to go to A&E. I don't think the system is quite as broke as people claim and the pressures are different in different regions.

My daughter has a couple of conditions which means we need access to GP services out of hours and regularly in hours and we never have a problem getting medical attention. You do have to know how the system works though.

[minestrone]

Unfortunately with the NHS you need to learn to play the system. It's developed for the staff ease rather than your ease.

Of course, we should expect octogenarians to game the system after a lifetime of tax payments. Seems reasonable they have to get in line behind Easterns.

[The_Equalizer]

Whose fault is that? The migrants don't flee British nationals do.

Btw you are aware that lots of Somalians who came here as refugees are British nationals?

Or is that just human nature? Your argument can equally be reversed. Why do immigrant populations tend to congregate together? Probably for the same reason.

[minestrone]

Whose fault is that? The migrants don't flee British nationals do.

Btw you are aware that lots of Somalians who came here as refugees are British nationals?

In that area they flee with good reason.

The fault is behind us, the solution is leave the EU and send them home.

[Old Greg]

There is a school near me, 230 children, not one is a UK national.

Is that healthy? A ghetto of self segregating EU nationals?

How do you know all their nationalities?