EU referendum: Boris and Gove pledge tough new immigration system after Brexit

[DodgyAgent]

Exactly, simply imposing visas on EU immigrants will simply mean even more visas being issued. The reason why there are so many is because a) Universities recruit an enormous number of overseas students b) employers are offering jobs and supporting visa applications.

The EU is a separate issue to immigration.

We do not need Polish graduates working in Starbucks so we simply do not issue visas unless they have a skill that is in demand.

[Old Greg]

Maltas problem is that no one wants to go and live there so quite what they have to do with the UKs problem I do not know.

They share free movement across the EU. That is the common factor. HTH.

[DodgyAgent]

They share free movement across the EU. That is the common factor. HTH.

That may be a common factor but they do not have an overpopulation problem as we have

[BrilloPad]

We do not need Polish graduates working in Starbucks so we simply do not issue visas unless they have a skill that is in demand.

Plenty of demand for Polish graduates in your local brothel.

[dx4100]

That may be a common factor but they do not have an overpopulation problem as we have

LIE ^

We don't have an overpopulation problem....

[BlasterBates]

There are 28 countries in the EU and only the UK has a problem with immigration.

Plenty of countries such as Ireland with a similar standard of living that don't. One tip that might help us to understand this is that most EU countries have a much lower level of non-EU immigration.

[Old Greg]

That may be a common factor but they do not have an overpopulation problem as we have

Malta is the most densely populated country in the EU and one of the most densely populated countries in the world, with about 1,265 inhabitants per square kilometre (3,000 per square mile). This compares with about 32 per square kilometre (85 per square mile) for the United States.

https://www.google.ie/search?rct=j&q=population+density+of+malta&gws_rd= cr&ei=5a9OV4iiFYnSgAa_k43gBA

[darmstadt]

How does that work in the UK ? For example there is a shortage of cyber security people. If we just allowed skills like these to come to the UK how would that affect the market? There are no locals to do these jobs. At the bottom end of the spectrum we have EU graduates coming to the UK. They are not competing for the graduate jobs that UK graduates would go for instead they are working in Starbucks and retail outlets. These would normally be jobs done by non graduate uK workers. Where do these workers of ours go? First of all Starbucks have it easy as they do not have any upward pressure on wages and secondly the uK non graduates will then have to drop a rung and work in completely unskilled jobs as they cannot compete with the Eastern Europeans.

Well the UK then needs to do something about that. Cyber security specialists are now on the list of official skills shortage: https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...ules_print.pdf so obviously if one or more wanted to come to the UK then they would do so but this does not affect the UK market not only because there are not many in the UK (which the UK needs to sort out) but because of the restrictions placed on companies trying to hire them: UK immigration rules fly in the face of cyber security skills shortage. Presumably if those requirements were dropped then there wouldn't be a shortage of non-UK specialists but at the same time, salaries would drop because then there would be too many of them...

I also think that many EU graduates come to the UK for a certain period of time, mainly to live the life, brush up on their English language skills and then bugger off back home.

[DodgyAgent]

https://www.google.ie/search?rct=j&q=population+density+of+malta&gws_rd= cr&ei=5a9OV4iiFYnSgAa_k43gBA

Fair enough. Maltas situation is irrelevant to that of the UK.

[Old Greg]

Fair enough. Maltas situation is irrelevant to that of the UK.

Why?