Excellent article by Liam Fox on EU

[Old Greg]

Your argument doesn't even make logical sense.
Both Thatcher (who dismantled the industrial base, saying services were the future) and Blair (who opened the borders to East Europeans when he could have used the moratorium on Eastern workers which Germany used) had huge majorities. So the people got the government they voted for.
Recently the Tories got the majority they craved and started gouging money out of their natural supporters.
The mistakes made in this country cannot be blamed on Europe.

They had Parliamentary majorities but never a majority of the popular vote.

[vetran]

if we exit incorporating in Ireland etc should have no effect on UK tax paid.

The move to low cost countries is happening now. As all of Europe will be putting Tariffs in place for us to trade we just retaliate making it cheaper to employ here.

Which companies haven't already moved out financially? Not many.

Whilst losing large companies who pay little UK tax will be heartbreaking I would prefer to build the SMEs that pay so much.

[sasguru]

So can you explain exactly how the boomers "sold" Singapore, given the above timelines?

You're going to have to wait. MM's been called out on a job - he's got to fix an old Indesit that's causing gyp.

[Old Greg]

You're going to have to wait. MM's been called out on a job - he's got to fix an old Indesit that's causing gyp.

I guess someone's got to push the sack truck.

[The_Equalizer]

You're going to have to wait. MM's been called out on a job - he's got to fix an old Indesit that's causing gyp.

Keep sneering sunshine. In fact, while were on the topic, I bet you couldn't fix a washing machine.

[vetran]

You're going to have to wait. MM's been called out on a job - he's got to fix an old Indesit that's causing gyp.

Ass your mummy told you not to leave your crayons in your shorts, I bet they melted and blocked the filter again.
Will she be 'paying' the usual way once the washing machine is fixed by 'stress testing' with MM?

[sasguru]

They had Parliamentary majorities but never a majority of the popular vote.

If you consider the first-past-the-post-system is a mistake as it's undemocratic and unrepresentative, well it's entirely our own mistake and not Europe's fault.

[BlasterBates]

if we exit incorporating in Ireland etc should have no effect on UK tax paid.

The move to low cost countries is happening now. As all of Europe will be putting Tariffs in place for us to trade we just retaliate making it cheaper to employ here.

Which companies haven't already moved out financially? Not many.

Whilst losing large companies who pay little UK tax will be heartbreaking I would prefer to build the SMEs that pay so much.

Who will invest in these SME's, given the high levels of personal debt ?

When the UK isolates itself it will have to depend on UK investment.

[Old Greg]

If you consider the first-past-the-post-system is a mistake as it's undemocratic and unrepresentative, well it's entirely our own mistake and not Europe's fault.

Exactamundo.

[sasguru]

Keep sneering sunshine. In fact, while were on the topic, I bet you couldn't fix a washing machine.

No I haven't been trained to. I've spent several years training in something that pays Ok.
It's why I don't have to whinge ad nauseum on here.
Anyway good change of topic when your lack of logic was pointed out.