Brexit looming

[unixman]

"Britain’s Leave campaign will put immigration and border controls at the centre of its campaign — and that could be a winning tactic."

I don't agree with that. Campaigning on immigration will get Brexit a lot of votes, but ultimately they will come second. Instead, they should put the EU itself at the centre of the campaign, and its intractable long term problems. Campaigning on immigration will also mean they have to battle against Political Correctness - easily the strongest force in world politics at the moment.

[LondonManc]

Prime Minister David Cameron has said he does not think it "appropriate" to use the Brussels attacks to further arguments in the EU referendum debate.

Yes, Dave, that's because there are no positives for the remain campaign from the bombing you utter twonk. Who's really behind it though? Who stands to benefit most from Brexit?

[sasguru]

Deluded is too strong. Things are often OBE. I agree it's unlikely (I've already put my money where my mouth is), but increasingly likely. There's no strong evidence to believe that the phone polls are more accurate (there is evidence both ways). Perhaps more importantly, these polls are generally not weighted for voter turnout. For those polls that have been weighted by turnout among different classes of voter, there's typically a 5+ point shift in the direction of Leave. Whether Leave can win largely comes down to whether Remain can motivate their (typically younger) voters to turn out.

Either way, the Tories are going to implode

Linky please?

[d000hg]

Either way, the Tories are going to implode

THe way the SNP has?

MPs are used to the government's plans not going how they wish, and in this case it's the public voting. I imagine a few key people may get moved out but potentially not even that. Dave might jump if we vote Leave but then he's going anyway.

[PurpleGorilla]

The polls are swinging to BREXIT.

This is the important perspective;

[VectraMan]

Yes, Dave, that's because there are no positives for the remain campaign from the bombing you utter twonk.

Standing firm with our allies rather than trying to distance ourselves and pretend that what goes on on the continent is nothing to do with us? Sounds like a positive for the remain campaign.

Who's really behind it though? Who stands to benefit most from Brexit?

Boris. Putin. Sturgeon. Czech car workers. Take your pick.

[Troll]

Standing firm with our allies

What does standing firm actually mean ?

Convening a meeting of Cobra?
Meaningless one minute silence gestures
Illuminating public buildings with the nations flag suffering the latest atrocities?

We already share Intel across borders

[Gumbo Robot]

Standing firm with our allies rather than trying to distance ourselves and pretend that what goes on on the continent is nothing to do with us? Sounds like a positive for the remain campaign.



Boris. Putin. Sturgeon. Czech car workers. Take your pick.

Every way I look at it, it just becomes blindingly obvious that Europe does not have any solutions to anything.

Let's just get the hell out.

[FatLazyContractor]

What does standing firm actually mean ?

Convening a meeting of Cobra?
Meaningless one minute silence gestures
Illuminating public buildings with the nations flag suffering the latest atrocities?

We already share Intel across borders

You forgot:

Condemning the barbaric acts of these terrorists.

[PurpleGorilla]

Every way I look at it, it just becomes blindingly obvious that Europe does not have any solutions to anything.

Let's just get the hell out.

A free trade zone, with a small cooperative to handle shared issues collaboratively (defence, climate change, migration/refugees).

Quite what they do with the Eurozone I don't know, I think a BREXIT might bring the whole stack crashing down.

But I see that as a great opportunity to build something fairer, less beurocratic, and more democratic [emoji106]🏾