Brexit looming

[DimPrawn]

And over 2M Brits who live in the EU will have to return after Brexit if they don't get work permits, pensions and healthcare

Poor bastards.

[BlasterBates]

Actually if you look at the statistics, every year half a million British residents are exiting the workforce, either emigrating or retiring (i.e. not being replaced by young people). They're being replaced by half a million immigrants, non-EU and EU.

This won't change because a country with a huge debt can't afford to lose a half a million productive workers per year.

If this weren't the case how does one explain the fact that unemployment remains low in spite of the number of immigrants. Anyone who wants to limit immigration has to persuade the over 65's to come back out of their comfortable retirement. Interestingly it's the over 65's who want to limit immigration.

The above is the reason a Brexit won't change the amount of immigration.

I'm fairly neutral on Brexit or no Brexit simply because in reality it won't change anything, there's absolutely no way Britain can extricate itself from the EU. Even Nigel Farage believes in immigration. If he ever gets to be Prime minister he'll find himself as equally powerless reduce "headline levels".

[unemployed]

And over 2M Brits who live in the EU will have to return after Brexit if they don't get work permits, pensions and healthcare

[DodgyAgent]

Actually if you look at the statistics, every year half a million British residents are exiting the workforce, either emigrating or retiring (i.e. not being replaced by young people). They're being replaced by half a million immigrants, non-EU and EU.

This won't change because a country with a huge debt can't afford to lose a half a million productive workers per year.

If this weren't the case how does one explain the fact that unemployment remains low in spite of the number of immigrants. Anyone who wants to limit immigration has to persuade the over 65's to come back out of their comfortable retirement. Interestingly it's the over 65's who want to limit immigration.

The above is the reason a Brexit won't change the amount of immigration.

I'm fairly neutral on Brexit or no Brexit simply because in reality it won't change anything, there's absolutely no way Britain can extricate itself from the EU. Even Nigel Farage believes in immigration. If he ever gets to be Prime minister he'll find himself as equally powerless reduce "headline levels".

That may be true but immigration has eased pressure on wages thus keeping them low. This is mor worrying EU Taxes and Regulations Killed British Steel Industry | Euro Guido

[d000hg]

And over 2M Brits who live in the EU will have to return after Brexit if they don't get work permits, pensions and healthcare

I somehow doubt this is true. Depending how long you've been there would most/many not qualify for residency?

[VectraMan]

This is mor worrying EU Taxes and Regulations Killed British Steel Industry | Euro Guido

I don't think even a loony-left Jeremy Corbyn UK Government would want a million pounds a day losing factory on its books just to say that it "saved" the British steel industry. The EU state aid rules make no difference in this case. And the EU's green rules are hardly forced upon us; if anything the UK has led the way.

It's another "blame the EU" story that's nothing to do with the EU.

[VectraMan]

I somehow doubt this is true. Depending how long you've been there would most/many not qualify for residency?

Doesn't mean they get work permits, pensions or healthcare though.

[BlasterBates]

That may be true but immigration has eased pressure on wages thus keeping them low. This is mor worrying EU Taxes and Regulations Killed British Steel Industry | Euro Guido

The discussion on EU energy taxes is a valid one in the Brexit debate.

I suspect that in a future trade agreement we will probably continue to sign up to this in the context of a wider trading agreement with the EU. The EU energy market is important for British Industry who will wish to continue to do business, particularly as it will be much harder to export electricity to other countries such as India given the distances involved.

[Eirikur]

I somehow doubt this is true. Depending how long you've been there would most/many not qualify for residency?

In general after 5 years one can apply for permanent residency however this is not always granted (convictions, no continuous stay, no source of income, etc)

[Eirikur]

That may be true but immigration has eased pressure on wages thus keeping them low. This is mor worrying EU Taxes and Regulations Killed British Steel Industry | Euro Guido

Yes if the UK exits and raises import duty they will lose all steel industry forever as the rest of the EU has still the low import duty resulting in steel produced in the UK that cannot be exported, because it's too expensive.