Cameron in Europe - Good or Crap?

[jamesbrown]

Good read:

Michael Gove: Why I'm backing Leave | Coffee House

[Flashman]

Clearly nothing would have satisfied you kippers so your opinions are irrelevant really.

I'm a bit surprised about the child benefit thing as that's obviously one gripe a lot of people have. So that's a win. And although "ever closer union" is just words and doesn't mean anything in practical terms making it clear the UK can opt-out of it is a good symbolic gesture.

I think this may be enough to win over some of the undecideds, but he was never going to achieve immigration caps.

This issue will not go away because the people who know what democracy is will never be satisfied with membership of the EU.

[teapot418]

Clearly nothing would have satisfied you kippers so your opinions are irrelevant really.

Are you impressed with what he's achieved?

[AtW]

Good read:

Michael Gove: Why I'm backing Leave | Coffee House

Gove is a cretin and so are the people behind Leave campaign as him speaking in favour of leaving reflects on them too.

[scooterscot]

Good read:

Michael Gove: Why I'm backing Leave | Coffee House

Is this the same man who left our education system in taters?

[VectraMan]

Are you impressed with what he's achieved?

I think the whole "renegotiation" was a dumb idea and was only ever likely to hurt the cause rather than help it. But he achieved more than I thought he would.

But even if he'd managed to get complete control of immigration, total opt out on all legislation, no further payments to the EU and a refund on the 20 years worth so far, complete freedom for the UK to abuse human rights, AND free ice cream for life for every man, woman and child in the UK Kippers would still vote to leave because it's not about what the EU is or what the EU does. Scorpion and the duck and all that.

What he needs to do is win over the undecideds.

[VectraMan]

Gove is a cretin and so are the people behind Leave campaign as him speaking in favour of leaving reflects on them too.

Has Boris decided yet? Probably both camps are hoping he doesn't pick their side.

[AtW]

Has Boris decided yet? Probably both camps are hoping he doesn't pick their side.

He'll go pro EU, just trying to maximise his personal gains from decision he'd already taken. Allegedly...

[AtW]

I think the whole "renegotiation" was a dumb idea and was only ever likely to hurt the cause rather than help it. But he achieved more than I thought he would.

Indeed. Camoron have secured himself a nice EU job in the future IF he wins the referendum.

[MicrosoftBob]

Good read:

Michael Gove: Why I'm backing Leave | Coffee House

A politician with principals, contract that with Jezzbollah and McIra the renowed Eurosceptics who will be in the In camp