Muslims and terrorism, do they just accept it?

[PurpleGorilla]

But what about,

But what about,

But what about...

I'm done with this, you think you are so smart, how about you say how we stop ISIS and our dependence on ME trade.

I hear no ideas from you.

[DaveB]

But what about,

But what about,

But what about...

I'm done with this, you think you are so smart, how about you say how we stop ISIS and our dependence on ME trade.

I hear no ideas from you.

Stop demonising people simply becasue of their religion.

Reach out to the majority Muslim community and show some solidarity.

Invest in communities of all faiths to tackle the poverty and discrimination that leads to radicalisation

Tackle the media bias that fuels anti-Muslim sentiment and allows the extremists to exploit it as evidence of "the war against Islam".

Stop referring to ISIS as Muslim or Islamic extremists and call them what they are. Terrorists, Criminals, Murderers.

Put more pressure on the social media services that ISIS and others use to spread their messages.

Will that do for a start?

[PurpleGorilla]

Stop demonising people simply becasue of their religion.

Reach out to the majority Muslim community and show some solidarity.

Invest in communities of all faiths to tackle the poverty and discrimination that leads to radicalisation

Tackle the media bias that fuels anti-Muslim sentiment and allows the extremists to exploit it as evidence of "the war against Islam".

Stop referring to ISIS as Muslim or Islamic extremists and call them what they are. Terrorists, Criminals, Murderers.

Put more pressure on the social media services that ISIS and others use to spread their messages.

Will that do for a start?

How does that liberate Raqqah and Mosul?

[DaveB]

How does that liberate Raqqah and Mosul?

It's a start and it doesnt involve killing anyone. Nothing you proposed will do that either.

But if you start by preventing your own people being radicalised you are more likely to get support from others and to cut off funding and support.

Most of the Paris attackers were home grown, they were French or Belgian by birth. They could have been stopped if ISIS had not been given the chance to turn them into terrorists.

If the Syrian war is to be stopped it is going to take the US and Russia actually agreeing to cooperate, support the moderate rebels in Syria and get shot of Assad. ISIS are exploiting the fact that the Assad regime and the rebels are too busy fighting each other to stop them.

It's also going to have to involve bringing Iran back in from the wilderness. They are realistically the only ones with the influence and capacity to do anything about ISIS in Iraq. Giving them the chance to show that they can be part of the international community is far more likely to result in reforms at home. It would also allow them to act as a counter balance to the influence of SA in the region.

[PurpleGorilla]

It's a start and it doesnt involve killing anyone. Nothing you proposed will do that either.

But if you start by preventing your own people being radicalised you are more likely to get support from others and to cut off funding and support.

Most of the Paris attackers were home grown, they were French or Belgian by birth. They could have been stopped if ISIS had not been given the chance to turn them into terrorists.

If the Syrian war is to be stopped it is going to take the US and Russia actually agreeing to cooperate, support the moderate rebels in Syria and get shot of Assad. ISIS are exploiting the fact that the Assad regime and the rebels are too busy fighting each other to stop them.

It's also going to have to involve bringing Iran back in from the wilderness. They are realistically the only ones with the influence and capacity to do anything about ISIS in Iraq. Giving them the chance to show that they can be part of the international community is far more likely to result in reforms at home. It would also allow them to act as a counter balance to the influence of SA in the region.

I haven't said anything about killing anyone, except perhaps the odd very high priority target like JJ. Policing and killing are two different things.

If you scroll back you will see we share the same views on investment to prevent radicalisation. I also suggest amending the criminal record process.

You may also have noticed, if you weren't so blinkered in your enthusiasm to criticise that I am very pro UN, and very anti BBC.

[d000hg]

Every time we see any Islamic-linked violence, the news is full of UK Muslims denouncing the radicals. We see that from French Muslims now.

I imagine few of us watch TV from heavily Islamic nations or can speak their languages. But for instance, what were the newspaper headlines about the Paris attacks in countries around the world. Anyone checked? Presumably those complaining about the lack of denouncement keep an eye on such things?

[ELBBUBKUNPS]

I think Page 3 should be brought back

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

I've said it before and I will say it again.

From the Muslim population you have a variety of groups.

Within Muslims you have a subset whom are Sunni
Within Sunni Muslims you have a subset whom are Wahabi/Salafist
Within Wahabi/Salafist you have a subset who sympathise with Terrorists because of their motives
Within the subset of those who sympathise you have a subset who are actually inclined to be involved in terrorism.

Saudi Arabia are the "Man City" of the Muslim sect world. Because they have been investing in their sect for the last 40 or 50 years they are now bearing the fruits (or in this case thorns). The west chose to chum up to them all these years and sell them arms which they have now used to bomb the living hell out of Yemen. All of our concern should be Saudi - they are the mother ship of ISIS and AlQaeda (Set your mind back to Independence day film). Once you take out the mother ship then within a few decades you will find a lot less extremists and everything will calm down.

Capish?

[PurpleGorilla]

I've said it before and I will say it again.

From the Muslim population you have a variety of groups.

Within Muslims you have a subset whom are Sunni
Within Sunni Muslims you have a subset whom are Wahabi/Salafist
Within Wahabi/Salafist you have a subset who sympathise with Terrorists because of their motives
Within the subset of those who sympathise you have a subset who are actually inclined to be involved in terrorism.

Saudi Arabia are the "Man City" of the Muslim sect world. Because they have been investing in their sect for the last 40 or 50 years they are now bearing the fruits (or in this case thorns). The west chose to chum up to them all these years and sell them arms which they have now used to bomb the living hell out of Yemen. All of our concern should be Saudi - they are the mother ship of ISIS and AlQaeda (Set your mind back to Independence day film). Once you take out the mother ship then within a few decades you will find a lot less extremists and everything will calm down.

Capish?

Capish!

[darmstadt]

Says it all really: