Crackdown on personal service companies could raise £400m in tax

[DimPrawn]

I'm not IT. My view in IT is that if it's a genuine project - I.e. Has a finite end then agree a price for the whole project up front and it takes as long as it takes. If you were truly IT contractors you shouldn't have an issue with that in the main.

Say no more. Most likely you are a HMR&C drone and/or

[cojak]

Around half the contractors I know use composite/offshore companies of some form or another and I'm wondering if this is really aimed at stopping this market. If so the 400m number quoted seems quite low considering the numbers on these schemes.
To wipe out the whole contract market does seem to be a completely overboard response. What will probably happen is that there will be a raft of new schemes to get around the new rules and there will be an increase in people using them as running a LtdCo becomes no longer viable.

Off-shore companies? You mean like Sanzar, Darwin and the rest? We know what's happened to them, don't we?

[seeourbee]

Say no more. Most likely you are a HMR&C drone and/or

Keep the insults to the playground before you embarrass yourself.

[MrMarkyMark]

FTFY

Keep the insults to General before you embarrass yourself.

Oh, err, hang on

[seeourbee]

Shouldn't scoping up the project be one piece of work, then commissioning it to be another.

[cojak]

Keep the insults to General before you embarrass yourself.

And since we're in General, no problem there.

[_V_]

Shouldn't scoping up the project be one piece of work, then commissioning it to be another.

Yes, it's called agile and it's done on a day to day basis. The era of 6 months scoping and specification followed by two years development only exist in the public sector where there's unlimited tax payers money to fund it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_...re_development

[MrMarkyMark]

Shouldn't scoping up the project be one piece of work, then commissioning it to be another.

Of course.
If I was doing such a thing for a medium size project, I would expect to go in for 5 days to scope it up.

Discussion here:-

http://forums.contractoruk.com/busin...-contract.html

[seeourbee]

Starting/committing to a project unscoped sounds insane to me (from client perspective), no wonder the cost and time go on for years then. Sounds to me the public sector model is the cheapest which is exactly as it should be with public funds.

[MrMarkyMark]

Starting/committing to a project unscoped sounds insane to me (from client perspective), no wonder the cost and time go on for years then.

One of the biggest problems that we face in IT, is the poor quality of business requirements and scope creep.
In addition, FP contracts have to be locked down, in the terms of what happens, if the client does not deliver their part, that you are reliant on, on time.