£100,000 per year

[DodgyAgent]

And who kills these aspirations? Who creates the poor public services, poor education services, etc.? I suspect its these affluent middle classes who vote for successive right wing governments who it seems there main aim in life is to keep the lower classes downtrodden and create a stable voter base for themselves ensuring that they will never suffer...

This is full of twisted logic and wild assumptions that really tell us more about you than any objective analysis of middle class people.

I think you will find people like me want everyone to have the opportunity and aspirations to lift themselves out of the clutches of the state. Socialists on the other hand want victims so it plays to their narrative to have as many people dependent on the state as they can. It is no coincidence that the poorer areas of society and the least efficient structures of services are controlled by socialists. The notion of people becoming like you - rich , independent and free from state services is horrifying. I do not know why people like you do not want others to enjoy what you enjoy (I suspect I know).

Since when have the poor been Tory voters? I am interested to know why middle class people are so selfish and you being one of them are not. In the realm of "caring" perhaps you can tell me which section of society is the one that is so caring?

[darmstadt]

This is full of twisted logic and wild assumptions that really tell us more about you than any objective analysis of middle class people.

I think you will find people like me want everyone to have the opportunity and aspirations to lift themselves out of the clutches of the state. Socialists on the other hand want victims so it plays to their narrative to have as many people dependent on the state as they can. It is no coincidence that the poorer areas of society and the least efficient structures of services are controlled by socialists. The notion of people becoming like you - rich , independent and free from state services is horrifying. I do not know why people like you do not want others to enjoy what you enjoy (I suspect I know).

Since when have the poor been Tory voters? I am interested to know why middle class people are so selfish and you being one of them are not. In the realm of "caring" perhaps you can tell me which section of society is the one that is so caring?

Ha ha. I can remember a lot of poor Tory voters many years ago. They were claiming benefits, living in council houses and as soon as Thatcher announced the great council house sell-of, they all became Tories and bought their properties. I think you ought to read your original post carefully again...

[DaveB]

This is full of twisted logic and wild assumptions that really tell us more about you than any objective analysis of middle class people.

A bit like your own posts then.

[DaveB]

Since when has the nations wealth been a specific set amount?

It isn't. Thats why it uses percentages.

Do try and keep up.

I'd have thought even a dodgy agent would under stand the concept of a percentage. You do try and make them as large as possible after all.

[vetran]

Komrade Korbyn will have Tractor Production studies at University of Korbyngrad (formally known as Oxford)

FTFY

[DodgyAgent]

Ha ha. I can remember a lot of poor Tory voters many years ago. They were claiming benefits, living in council houses and as soon as Thatcher announced the great council house sell-of, they all became Tories and bought their properties. I think you ought to read your original post carefully again...

meaning what? they should have been made to stay in their council houses?

[AtW]

Komrade Korbyn will have Tractor Production studies at Polytechnic of Korbyngrad (formally known as Oxford)

FTFY

[centurian]

The reduction in tax benefits after you get to 100K is 45% tax by the back door

I wish it was 45% by the back door - it hurts way more than that.

When it was first introduced, it was 50% by the back door - when it came in, I thought - why not just start the 50% band at 100K and keep the personal allowance.

The problem is now is that the 60% band as now much wider (as the personal allowance has grown), so to make it revenue neutral would mean starting the 45% band at ~£75K-80K - hard to calculate exactly - as we don't have exact amount of people at each 000s split - but it will certainly be lower than 100K

[AtW]

I wish it was 45% by the back door - it hurts way more than that.

When it was first introduced, it was 50% by the back door - when it came in, I thought - why not just start the 50% band at 100K and keep the personal allowance.

The problem is now is that the 60% band as now much wider (as the personal allowance has grown), so to make it revenue neutral would mean starting the 45% band at ~£75K-80K - hard to calculate exactly - as we don't have exact amount of people at each 000s split - but it will certainly be lower than 100K

+1

50% at 150k or even 100k - fine, but having this insulting contraption of removing personal allowance at 100k is an insult, then it gets worse - personal allowance is INCREASING for most people, but it just widens 60% band for those between 100 and 120k.

[unixman]

The reason why wealthy individuals such as Russel Brand, Charlotte Church, Daniel Craig, Tony Benn call themselves socialists is to deflect attention away from the fact that they themselves have vast amounts of money...

There is nothing wrong or hypocritical about being lefty and rich. As long as you are not pretending to be poor. None of these lot would deny their riches. I'm a Tory btw.