Immigration or humanitarian crisis?

[vetran]

This whole Syrian situation is aimed at Assad in the first place. Why not just remove the American interest in Syria and the rest of the middle east then let them repair/rebuild after restoring order and some semblance of normality?

because its unlikely that the locals will win against ISIS etc and we will end up with a country full of nutters?

[FatLazyContractor]

This whole Syrian situation is aimed at Assad in the first place. Why not just remove the American interest in Syria and the rest of the middle east then let them repair/rebuild after restoring order and some semblance of normality?

You have forgotten the biggest element here -> ISIS.

They don't have an agenda. Mass destruction, hatred towards progressive civilisation and hatred towards the west are their drivers.

[Jog On]

because its unlikely that the locals will win against ISIS etc and we will end up with a country full of nutters?

The locals will win against ISIS if they get support and co ordination of a powerful army to defeat ISIS. The US/UK etc have been there over a year and ISIS have just gained ground and got stronger - how does this happen?

You have forgotten the biggest element here -> ISIS.

They don't have an agenda. Mass destruction, hatred towards progressive civilisation and hatred towards the west are their drivers.

They do have an agenda which is to overthrow the Assad regime which is what they were recruited for, trained, funded and armed to do in the first place.

Again - we've been 'bombing them' for a year now and how's that going? What progress are we seeing?

WTF is actually going on over there?

[vetran]

The locals will win against ISIS if they get support and co ordination of a powerful army to defeat ISIS. The US/UK etc have been there over a year and ISIS have just gained ground and got stronger - how does this happen?

because the US & UK are unwilling to step over the mark and obliterate them which is probably what is needed. Lets set Stormin Norman on em.

[LondonManc]

This whole Syrian situation is aimed at Assad in the first place. Why not just remove the American interest in Syria and the rest of the middle east then let them repair/rebuild after restoring order and some semblance of normality?

New to America?

[fullyautomatix]

I fully agree with Cameron.

Need of the hour though is to:

- Find these refugees a decent place to live. Identifying/tagging etc.
- Tell the economic migrants to Get the FO. Example: What F'king war/persecution is happening in Pakistan?
- Go full force on ISIS + Ass'h0le'ad
- Send the refugees back after the place is deemed safe.

The second largest economic migration to UK is from Pakistan after India. They come via legal channels with work visa etc etc.

The asylum seekers are usually genuine bearing in mind Pakistan is an islamic country and if you are a homosexual you can be targetted there. So , its possible that you get genuine asylum seekers from over there. UK has large pockets of people from Pakistan settled and you find their relatives try to join them via this route.

[Flashman]

because its unlikely that the locals will win against ISIS etc and we will end up with a country full of nutters?

Russian soldiers are reputedly helping Assad now. Maybe we should help to if the alternative is ISIS?

[AtW]

Russian soldiers are reputedly helping Assad now. Maybe we should help to if the alternative is ISIS?

You are already helping every time you refuel your car.

[Flashman]

Apart from the fact she never actually said that , that is a German government estimate. What she did say was:

Germany opens its gates: Berlin says all Syrian asylum-seekers are welcome to remain, as Britain is urged to make a 'similar statement' - Europe - World - The Independent

Germany threw open the gates to all and sundry in August. Now, surprise, surprise they can't cope.

Now Germany dictates that everyone else must take their refugees!!

[vetran]

The second largest economic migration to UK is from Pakistan after India. They come via legal channels with work visa etc etc.

The asylum seekers are usually genuine bearing in mind Pakistan is an islamic country and if you are a homosexual you can be targetted there. So , its possible that you get genuine asylum seekers from over there. UK has large pockets of people from Pakistan settled and you find their relatives try to join them via this route.

Pakistan are good for 'seconds'

UNHCR:The UK and Asylum

Where do asylum seekers in the UK come from?
The top three countries of origin are: Eritrea (3,568), Pakistan (2,302), and Syria (2,204),