Have we done the incipient mini ice age?

[EternalOptimist]

No, you're looking at it the wrong way. It is deeply sad news as many more cuddly polar bears will now die due to global warming.

this Polar bear walks into a bar, right.....

[BlasterBates]

There are two types of facts in this world:

Greenpeace facts

Global warming is the most serious threat to polar bears. Rising arctic temperatures are reducing both the extent and duration of the sea ice polar bears depend on for hunting, forcing them to spend more time on land away from vital food supplies.

Non-Greenpeace Facts

Crockford explains why the colder temperatures yearned for by global warming alarmists may negatively affect polar bear populations.

Take your pick.

This is rather like global temperature graphs, there are global temperature graphs that go up and there are global temperature graphs that go down.

[pjclarke]

There are two types of facts in this world:

Take your pick.

I pick the fact based on the peer-reviewed literature, written by experts with a long history of hands-on field study and publication.

I am less keen on the fact based on an unreviewed blog post that examines one area of the Arctic in one season and extrapolates an apparent correlation between ice thickness and polar bear numbers to the whole Arctic and declares the literature to be wrong. Written by Susan Crockford - who self-describes as 'a different kind of polar bear expert than those that study bears in the field' and who thinks that 'having a different background means I know things they do not and this makes my contribution valuable and valid.'

There's open-minded, and then there's gullible. Take your pick.

http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net...f-Victoria.pdf

[pjclarke]

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and the barman says 'Why the long pause?'

[BrilloPad]

A man and his pet polar bear walk into a bar. It's about 5pm, but they're ready for a good night of drinking.
They start off slowly, watching TV, drinking beer, eating peanuts. As the night goes on they move to mixed drinks, and then shooters, one after the other.
Finally, the bartender says: "Last call."
So, the man says, "One more for me... and one more for my polar bear."
The bartender sets them up and they shoot them back. Suddenly, the polar bear falls over dead.
The man throws some money on the bar, puts on his coat and starts to leave.
The bartender, yells: "Hey buddy, you can't just leave that lyin' there."
To which the man replies: "That's not a lion, that's a polar bear."

[BlasterBates]

I pick the fact based on the peer-reviewed literature, written by experts with a long history of hands-on field study and publication.

I am less keen on the fact based on an unreviewed blog post that examines one area of the Arctic in one season and extrapolates an apparent correlation between ice thickness and polar bear numbers to the whole Arctic and declares the literature to be wrong. Written by Susan Crockford - who self-describes as 'a different kind of polar bear expert than those that study bears in the field' and who thinks that 'having a different background means I know things they do not and this makes my contribution valuable and valid.'

There's open-minded, and then there's gullible. Take your pick.

http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net...f-Victoria.pdf

Agree with that, and yes you are

http://http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/science/environment/2011-07-28-polar-bear-scientist-investigation_n.htm

[pjclarke]

Agree with that, and yes you are

http://http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/science/environment/2011-07-28-polar-bear-scientist-investigation_n.htm

You seem to think that the mere fact of an investigation implies guilt. Certainly not in Monnet's case.

In December 2013, The Department of the Interior settled a whistleblower suit initiated by Monnett. They cleared his record of any reference to wrongdoing and awarded him $100,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Monnett

Perhaps best to check the outcome of an investigation before posting about it?

[darmstadt]

[BlasterBates]

You seem to think that the mere fact of an investigation implies guilt. Certainly not in Monnet's case.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Monnett

Perhaps best to check the outcome of an investigation before posting about it?

Not guilty but removed from his duties

Scientist settles in iconic 'drowning polar bears' row with US agency | Environment | The Guardian

So you can proudly proclaim he wasn't a criminal.

But is his science sound?

[EternalOptimist]

Apocalyptic fear monger in 1600



the introduction of printing only made the Apocalyptic fear monger louder



we're doomed, doomed I say



fear monger in 1900's





and now he has the internet