Labour supporter Jack Monroe defects to Green Party

[hyperD]

Whenever you post clarky, I'm always reminded of this scene:

[DodgyAgent]

It wasn't a point, 'pushing open doors immigration as a means mainly of dissolving our culture' is a blatent Straw Man, not worthy of a response, and given your Sig, your comments surprise me (actually, on reflection, no they don't, consistency not being a virtue much practiced on the Right.)

It is not a straw man argument. It is a valid assessment of what drives the left. It is explained more eloquently here. The self-loathing of the British Left is now a problem for us all – Telegraph Blogs But never mind as long as you have an excuse not to deal with the point.

This was a disastrous decision, given that, as Orwell noted, Labourites and Lefties revile and deride so many of the things perceived as quintessentially British. Take your pick from the monarchy, the flag, the Army, the history of rampant conquest, the biggest empire in the world, the supremacy of the English language, anyone who lives in the countryside, the national anthem, the City of London, the Royal Navy, a nuclear deterrent, the lion and the unicorn, duffing up the French, eating loads of beef – all this, for Lefties, is a source of shame.

[vetran]

It wasn't a point, 'pushing open doors immigration as a means mainly of dissolving our culture' is a blatent Straw Man, not worthy of a response, and given your Sig, your comments surprise me (actually, on reflection, no they don't, consistency not being a virtue much practiced on the Right.)

unfortunately for you Labour did fight that straw man and then set fire to it.

Labour's secret plan to lure immigrants was borderline treason – and plain stupid – Telegraph Blogs

Andrew Neather, a former Labour party speechwriter, let the cat out the bag when he said that the Government had encouraged immigration “to rub the Right’s nose in diversity”. But while Neather quickly backtracked, documents now released under the Freedom of Information Act suggest that he was telling the truth. Rather than being the result only of incompetence or a short-term economic measure to reduce inflation, Labour’s policy of runaway immigration was a deliberate and cynical attempt to change the face of British society.

for some reason the fertility rate has jumped since about 2000, wonder why that is?

[d000hg]

Entitlement , entitlement entitlement.

Many would say that a hallmark of a civilised society is that people ARE entitled to education, healthcare, food and roof. That's hardly a liberal of left-wing view either, that people deserve to be treated like people.

[DodgyAgent]

that people deserve to be treated like people.

What exactly does that mean?

[Unix]

The direction should be towards total unemployment, this can be achieved when robots/computers do most of the work and everyone receives 20k a month income.
HTH

[vetran]

Many would say that a hallmark of a civilised society is that people ARE entitled to education, healthcare, food and roof. That's hardly a liberal of left-wing view either, that people deserve to be treated like people.

Entitlement without responsibility is a way to ruin a society. Someone has to pay for all this, the vast majority of people's contribution is less than they take out. If too many take out then society collapses and/or the sponsors leave.

[DodgyAgent]

The direction should be towards total unemployment, this can be achieved when robots/computers do most of the work and everyone receives 20k a month income.
HTH

That is the first intelligent thing you have ever said

[pjclarke]

unfortunately for you Labour did fight that straw man and then set fire to it.

Labour's secret plan to lure immigrants was borderline treason – and plain stupid – Telegraph Blogs

Is that it? A blog post in the Telegraph hung on the slender hook of a single sentence in a draft policy document, that was removed in the final version?

Thin soup.

[vetran]

Is that it? A blog post in the Telegraph hung on the slender hook of a single sentence in a draft policy document, that was removed in the final version?

Thin soup.

maybe this will make your soup lumpy?

Labour 'sent out search parties for immigrants', Lord Mandelson admits - Telegraph