Labour supporter Jack Monroe defects to Green Party

[vetran]

I was leaning in the same direction as Unix. All this automation is supposed to mean we don't need everyone to work for things to work. And yet despite machines doing the jobs of millions of people, everyone still has to work.
I think we should have as a goal a society where people don't have to work in order to have a reasonable standard of living, but those who want to and/or have specialist skills can do so and are rewarded for it.

Many of the jobs people do today don't really need doing anyway.

The whole "everybody is morally obliged to work" argument is pretty flaky really, in a society where we don't actually need everyone doing something and a minority can produce all that the majority require.

the difficulty is that unless each person owns a robot that earns them money sooner or later someone will realise its not economic to pay people to sit around and you will end up with a few rich robot owners and the starving masses.

[vetran]

And you will, one day, develop into a great Wit. Cos you're half a one now.

Your turn.

I'm a half of one what? Or half a wit? or half a great wit? hmm scathing.


Or one day I will have a battle of wits when you finally arm yourself?

[pjclarke]

I'm a half of one what? Or half a wit? or half a great wit? hmm scathing.


Or one day I will have a battle of wits when you finally arm yourself?

If you have to explain the joke, it ceases to be funny.

[Bunk]

I've taken a lot of money out of the City however post the massive bank bailout, I do recognise the need for reform and regulation

See, this is the thing about a lot of lefties that gets me. They're all in favour of taxing other people, as long as it doesn't apply to them. You've made your money from the city, now nobody else should. Why shouldn't you be forced to give back that money too?

[Zero Liability]

The City has no lack of 'regulation' - there was and is plenty of it, a lot of it very bad. There was a lot of political and BOE push behind the recent crisis. The bailouts were to preserve their scheme from collapsing, little more.

[pjclarke]

See, this is the thing about a lot of lefties that gets me. They're all in favour of taxing other people, as long as it doesn't apply to them. You've made your money from the city, now nobody else should. Why shouldn't you be forced to give back that money too?

You see, that's my trouble with some people, they make stuff up that was never said. After 2008, the opinion that the City needs reform is hardly revolutionary, I made my money working for various banks as an IT consultant, a market that dried up in the crash (and when, let us not forget, we all had no option but to contribute to rescuing the sector from the consequence of its free market ways, privatise your profits, socialise your losses, great model). A properly managed City will likely generate more opportunity for my industry resulting in more people making money from it, not fewer.

Hope that's clear.

[BTW Currently listening to TSF Jazz, a pretty cool French radio station]

[vetran]

you have to explain the joke, it wasn't funny.

ftfy

[pjclarke]

People who 'proclaim' their political choices in this manner do my head in.

We all get one vote and we get to cast that on the day. I don't understand why she, or any other person who indulges in the 'me me me' behaviour, think that their vote is so important that it must be announced to the nation.

Well, she previously appeared in a Labour Party political broadcast, so her 'defection' is mildly newsworthy, and her 'announcement' was to post a picture of her welcome letter from the Green Party on Instagram. She didn't even mention it on her blog. It was the Daily Telegraph who picked it up and decided it was worthy of national circulation. Indeed, as she wrote in a piece on the media/social media fuss that ensued ....

Forget what I’m doing; my little ballot-paper cross means as much as the next person’s. The only person whose vote you should care about is your own. Because if you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything – and many a glossy leaflet shoved through your front door over the next seven weeks will be relying on exactly that.

[Gumbo Robot]

See, this is the thing about a lot of lefties that gets me. They're all in favour of taxing other people, as long as it doesn't apply to them. You've made your money from the city, now nobody else should. Why shouldn't you be forced to give back that money too?

He also tells us he lives in a National Park.

Presumably immune from living in the shadow of one his his beloved bird chomping wind turbines.

[pjclarke]

He also tells us he lives in a National Park.

Presumably immune from living in the shadow of one his his beloved bird chomping wind turbines.

The message is clear, if you really care about birds, throw away your mobile and drown the cat ...