Good job they will pay our pensions.

[SueEllen]

MigrationWatchUK | An independent, voluntary, non-political body concerned about the scale of immigration into the UK.

Migration watch are not independent and politically neutral. They are clearly right wing.

[darmstadt]

Migration watch are not independent and politically neutral. They are clearly right wing.

Anyone with any sense would know that by now, I've even posted about it on here previously but as usual get shot down as a 'leftie' for attacking their demigods. Founded by a person who is known to publish anti-immigration letters and is a well known Eurosceptic. Its also a limited company (Companies House WebCheck - Company No. 04511775) and relies on donations from the public but who are they? There was an FOI request made but the MoJ doesn't hold the relevant information but these were the questions asked:

1. All correspondence between your organisation and Migration Watch since May 2010. Please indicate whether minutes or official accounts of meetings were made and if so, please release these. Please also give details of any Home Office involvement in Migration Watch and any details of funding given to Migration Watch.
2. All correspondence between Kenneth Clarke and Migration Watch since May 2010.
3. All correspondence between Lord McNally and Migration Watch since May 2010.
4. All correspondence between Crispin Blunt and Migration Watch since May 2010.
5. All correspondence between Jonathon Djanogly and Migration Watch since May 2010.
6. All correspondence between Nick Herbert and Migration Watch since May 2010.
7. All correspondence between David Hass and Migration Watch since May 2010.
8. All correspondence between Kathryn Laing and Migration Watch since May 2010.

[darmstadt]

I suppose if you want to single out an individual then yes possibly she counts as part of the immigration wave, why don't we pick on Boris next ? Anything to avoid the real issue.

Ukip says babies born to immigrants in the UK should be classed as migrants

[SueEllen]

Ukip says babies born to immigrants in the UK should be classed as migrants

I don't know why a guy would say his own children are migrants plus the Royal Family.

[vetran]

I don't know why a guy would say his own children are migrants plus the Royal Family.

all emotional blackmail and denial from the 'pro' peopel

We need to measure the effects of immigration and decide :
1. do we let it continue at its current historic high?
If we do then what effects will it have on services and social cohesion?
2. Should we have a control over who we let in?
If we don't how do we deal with the less desirable ones?
3. How do we integrate recent migrants
4 how do we supply services to meet the demand?
5. do the sums add up will the migrants pay for themselves completely including in work benefits and displacement? Ignoring those migrants that would have got in anyway via a visa.
6. do we have any clue how many migrants there are?

or we can go on fudging the issue by smearing anyone who raises the question until we fill up or we have weekly riots.


can you answer any of these questions?

[darmstadt]

all emotional blackmail and denial from the 'pro' peopel

We need to measure the effects of immigration and decide :
1. do we let it continue at its current historic high?
If we do then what effects will it have on services and social cohesion?
2. Should we have a control over who we let in?
If we don't how do we deal with the less desirable ones?
3. How do we integrate recent migrants
4 how do we supply services to meet the demand?
5. do the sums add up will the migrants pay for themselves completely including in work benefits and displacement? Ignoring those migrants that would have got in anyway via a visa.
6. do we have any clue how many migrants there are?

or we can go on fudging the issue by smearing anyone who raises the question until we fill up or we have weekly riots.


can you answer any of these questions?

Can you? The people with all the questions don't seem to have the answers either, just more questions and rhetoric

[BlasterBates]

Since most of the "anti-immigration" crew are over 60 it's unlikely there are going to be riots.

But there will be lots of indignant posts on the Daily Mail site.

[turbowoowoo]

Migration watch are not independent and politically neutral. They are clearly right wing.

of course they are because they disagree with your liberal PC ideals

[turbowoowoo]

To understand the scale of migration fully and also be able to adapt to the changes required to support the migration why would you not include the offspring of migrants?

Its not because UKIP want to kill them or harm them in anyway (calm down liberals), its because these numbers will need infrastructure, welfare, NHS beds, housing, schooling in the future. It is due diligence. Trying to hide them because they maybe born here is playing with statistics which ultimately can affect future planning.

Once this is done then we can get back to controlled migration which benefits Britian, from EU and Other.

[The Spartan]

I tell you what, send all the migrants back to where they come from and all those Brits who have emigrated have to return to the UK, would you be happy then? Fro example, in 2014, the officially registered British-born population of Spain numbered 297,229 although there is believed to be many more and how many of those returning would be able to provide and wouldn't be a drain on the state?

Do the math BBC News - Net migration into UK up by more than 38% to 243,000 and that's just 2013-2014

297,229 isn't going to make that much of a difference, when net migration is up every year.