Once sentenced, jailed and released - is your debt to society over?

[d000hg]

I could have been once. But years on CUK have introduced me to generalisations, extrapolations and speaking without knowing few(if any) of the facts.

Don't be so modest, you're a natural.

[northernladuk]

Like NL?

Does that mean I can officially post "read the First Timers guide"?

What??!? Don't bring me in to this!!

[northernladuk]

This has a slightly different spin:

Ched Evans: Sorry, but all rapes are not the same - Telegraph

For dear old Freako: All rape isn't the same, allegedly.

That's a pretty interesting article. Haven't followed the story much but still an interesting read.

EDIT : And for discussion there is a case today of a pre-meditated ally rape where he got 5 years as well.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...g-rumours.html

[BrilloPad]

What??!? Don't bring me in to this!!

Have you paid your debt to CUK?

[ZARDOZ]

Personally think him returning to Sheff United is bad publicity for them, undecided whether he should be allowed to continue in a high profile role, leaning more toward not.

However, there is something fishy about this case, allegedly the victim had once before called rape on a high profile Rugby Player there was also some bragging on Twiiter about how she would spend her compo. Seems a possibility there may have been some sort of set up here.

[vetran]

Personally think him returning to Sheff United is bad publicity for them, undecided whether he should be allowed to continue in a high profile role, leaning more toward not.

However, there is something fishy about this case, allegedly the victim had once before called rape on a high profile Rugby Player there was also some bragging on Twiiter about how she would spend her compo. Seems a possibility there may have been some sort of set up here.

I'm also a bit confused about the grant of consent to Clayton at least an hour after she last drank so the drink would have taken effect and the apparent inability to grant consent a few minutes later to the other footballer. Not really consistent. I suspect the guilty verdict had more to do with views on his loose morals than facts.

I await the appeal if he is ever granted permission to appeal.

I suppose it might make footballers more cautious about what they do with their willies in future so its not entirely a bad thing.

[BrilloPad]

Personally think him returning to Sheff United is bad publicity for them, undecided whether he should be allowed to continue in a high profile role, leaning more toward not.

However, there is something fishy about this case, allegedly the victim had once before called rape on a high profile Rugby Player there was also some bragging on Twiiter about how she would spend her compo. Seems a possibility there may have been some sort of set up here.

If true that should be dealt with by the courts?

IMO he has been found guilty - so a high profile role where he is expected to serve as an example to others (especially children) is inappropriate?

[vetran]

Has the scrote not appealed once already?

no to appeal you need new evidence or to suggest the case was tried incorrectly.
Appeals to the Court of Appeal: Legal Guidance: The Crown Prosecution Service

he wasn't granted leave to appeal AIUI.

No Brillo having recently had experience in court I doubt most people in the legal system could find their rear end.Arrogant bunch of muppets.

[ZARDOZ]

If true that should be dealt with by the courts?

IMO he has been found guilty - so a high profile role where he is expected to serve as an example to others (especially children) is inappropriate?

I kind of agree, but it doesn't seem quite right,
1/ She was bragging about buying a Mini Cooper with her compo, bit strange
2/ Had claimed some rugby players raped her a while ago but the case was dropped
3/ Ched's Girlfriend has stood by him. She's richer than him, so not for monetary reasons. She must have heard the evidence.



IIRC both men were originally accused of rape. But the first case collapsed as there wasn't enough evidence. Ched's actions might appear to be those of a rapist (sneaking in) but how do we know he was not invited? If she did indeed have past form then perhaps he should have been given the benefit of the doubt. I guess we will never know. There may be other factors that have not been reported that point toward him being guilty.

[vetran]

The suggestion was that she was drunk and therefore unfit to give consent. So if she was fit to consent for Clayton why not Evans a short while later with no further alcohol consumed, what changed?

It doesn't make me think he is any less of a slimy scumbag using star struck girls for sex while the girlfriend is at home. Its not behavior I would indulge in or expect my children to.

I do suspect that the combination of cheating on the girlfriend and a threesome offended the jury.

but bits of this stink. If she has tried this in the past then it smells worse.