We should be apoplectic with rage about this

[BrilloPad]

I would venture that most people on this forum are reasonably intelligent enough

Are you sure about that? I know you are - but plenty who are thick or intelligent and acting stupid.

[original PM]

I'm not 'whining'. Just seeking clarification of inconsistency.

So, this serious topic is OK for discussion as long as the race element is completely ignored. OK boss...thanks. I understand now

As much as I do not wish to rock the boat - isn't the it a bit hard to discuss this in isolation from the fact this is being perpetrated by a quite clear racial demo graph?

[original PM]

The stereo type for the town where I was born is far worse, believe me!

do tell......

my interest is piqued

[SimonMac]

do tell......

my interest is piqued

Alas you may be waiting a while for that nugget of information!

[TestMangler]

As much as I do not wish to rock the boat - isn't the it a bit hard to discuss this in isolation from the fact this is being perpetrated by a quite clear racial demo graph?

No, not at all, their peaceful religion is irrelevant. Please don't mention it again

[NotAllThere]

As much as I do not wish to rock the boat - isn't the it a bit hard to discuss this in isolation from the fact this is being perpetrated by a quite clear racial demo graph?

No, because the fact that this was carried out almost entirely by members of the Pakistani community, and was in a large part due to their misogynistic, parochial culture, fueled by their interpretation of Islam, and was glossed over by idiotic "multicultural" sensibilities is well established.

To go on a general rant about Muslims and Pakistanis on the back of this, however, is not on. Unfortunately, there are a few morons who post here who will use this case as a platform to stir up racial hatred.

If you really find that hard to understand, then I suggest your stay off the topic.

The idea that Islam is a peaceful religion is clearly horse-feathers, and that is also perfectly acceptable, in my view, to discuss.

[BrilloPad]

The idea that Islam is a peaceful religion is clearly horse-feathers, and that is also perfectly acceptable, in my view, to discuss.

The vast majority of muslims are peaceful tolerant people. The only bit that gets the publicity is the extremists.

Unfortunately it is practiced in some backward countries which need dictatorial rule to hold them together.

[NotAllThere]

And the vast majority of Christians and Hindus and Buddhists are peaceful and just want to get on with their lives. But the religions themselves are not inherently peaceful, nor are all practitioners.

The problem is that extremists tend to dominate, because they care more. They care enough to die for their beliefs. We moderates don't. They win.

[TestMangler]

And the vast majority of Christians and Hindus and Buddhists are peaceful and just want to get on with their lives. But the religions themselves are not inherently peaceful, nor are all practitioners.

The problem is that extremists tend to dominate, because they care more. They care enough to die for their beliefs. We moderates don't. They win.

Moderators !

[d000hg]

The vast majority of muslims are peaceful tolerant people. The only bit that gets the publicity is the extremists.

Unfortunately it is practiced in some backward countries which need dictatorial rule to hold them together.

The vast majority of Christians don't like to talk about their faith in case it offends someone, even though that's in direct conflict with what Christianity teaches. I don't know if Islam is a peaceful religion or not but looking at what the nominally Muslim by culture majority say won't tell you; just as with Christianity the majority who would say they belong to that religion actually wear it as a label as they go about their lives, rather than living by it.