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Was the Scotland vote rigged?

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    Originally posted by Unix View Post
    So do I never saw that tweet, are you sure it isn't a parody?
    "Have to worry about some of Salmond’s allies. Far-left socialists and extreme greenies. Must change course to prosper if he wins"

    "SNP not talking about independence, but more welfarism, expensive greenery, etc and passing sovereignty to Brussels.”"

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      Tell me - was there anything in the SNP manifesto or promises about scrapping IR35, as well as the bedroom tax and how they would have compensated Scottish contractors and Perms, for the loss of their SC cleared MOD related jobs ?

      Should Scotland have become an independent country ?

      Or would the ( rest of UK ) MOD or Defence related employers,
      have paid generous relocation expenses for those key Scottish
      workers who would be required to leave Scotland before it
      becomes a foreign country ?
      Last edited by Tightfit; 23 September 2014, 14:59.

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        Originally posted by Tightfit View Post
        Tell me - was there anything in the SNP manifesto or promises about scrapping IR35, as well as the bedroom tax and how they would have compensated Scottish contractors and Perms, for the loss of their SC cleared MOD related jobs ?

        Should Scotland have become an independent country ?

        Or would the ( rest of UK ) MOD or Defence related employers,
        have paid generous relocation expenses for those key Scottish
        workers who would be required to leave Scotland before it
        becomes a foreign country ?
        I don't think it mentioned IR35 which probably means it would have been scrapped as a totally separate tax regime would have been set up. Beginning from scratch, I think a far fairer and much less complicated system could be used. HMRC just keep bolting on changes to a crappy complicated system with tax credits and stuff.

        Why would contractors be compensated? They would probably just finish up at the end of their contracts or move to MoD premises in rUK. That's the nature of the job. Scotland would need permies for her version of MoD so TUPE would work for that.

        You can still download the white paper and check it for yourself as I haven't looked at those particular issues you have.

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          Originally posted by Batcher View Post
          I don't think it mentioned IR35 which probably means it would have been scrapped as a totally separate tax regime would have been set up.
          No doubt. I mean the way that Wee Eck's vision worked relied on the "Emperor's New Clothes" syndrome being adopted across the whole spectrum.
          Everyone would end up with just what they wanted in his brave new world.
          If only 55% of the population hadn't asked to see the sums it might all have worked too.
          Shame really.

          “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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            Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
            No doubt. I mean the way that Wee Eck's vision worked relied on the "Emperor's New Clothes" syndrome being adopted across the whole spectrum.
            Everyone would end up with just what they wanted in his brave new world.
            If only 55% of the population hadn't asked to see the sums it might all have worked too.
            Shame really.

            Don't worry, we're still on the path to the brave new world.

            Labour will be decimated in Scotland at the GE (to join the Tories and LibDems). The big guns know this and are changing tack. Alistair Darling says he won't stand and Jim Murphy is going for leader of the Scottish wing of the party so he can have a job in the Scottish Parliament. They know from talking to their constituents that their seats will be lost.

            Ed Balls has even admitted that English votes for English laws will split the union - English Votes For English Laws Would Fracture The Union, Says Ed Balls

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              Why will Labour be decimated? What about the SNP?
              Originally posted by MaryPoppins
              I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
              Originally posted by vetran
              Urine is quite nourishing

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                Originally posted by d000hg View Post
                Why will Labour be decimated? What about the SNP?
                The SNP have almost doubled their membership since Friday from 26,000 to over 50,000. That is more than the LibDems have UK wide making the SNP the 3rd biggest party membership. The Greens and SSP have also added thousands to their memberships.

                The pro-indy parties will have a pact so they won't stand against each other at the GE therefore all the 1.6 million voters will tactically vote for the local pro-indy party. The 3 main parties will still stand against each other and the turnout is usually much lower for a GE anyway. A lot of the Labour MPs only have small majorities so will be easy to wipe out.

                The grassroots have a taste of the power we wield at the ballot box and won't let it go. There are rallies planned in Edinburgh this weekend and a big one in Glasgow in October to keep the momentum going.

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                  Originally posted by Batcher View Post
                  Don't worry, we're still on the path to the brave new world.

                  Labour will be decimated in Scotland at the GE (to join the Tories and LibDems). The big guns know this and are changing tack. Alistair Darling says he won't stand and Jim Murphy is going for leader of the Scottish wing of the party so he can have a job in the Scottish Parliament. They know from talking to their constituents that their seats will be lost.
                  Leaving the vacuum to be filled by?????

                  Oh that is right............the Greens.....and the Tartan Tories(SNP)!

                  By the time of the next Election all the scattered toys will have been gathered up and the turnout will be down below 30%. Meaning that the OAPs will decide the fate of the country.
                  As always.
                  “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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                    Originally posted by Batcher View Post
                    The SNP have almost doubled their membership since Friday from 26,000 to over 50,000. That is more than the LibDems have UK wide making the SNP the 3rd biggest party membership. The Greens and SSP have also added thousands to their memberships.

                    The pro-indy parties will have a pact so they won't stand against each other at the GE therefore all the 1.6 million voters will tactically vote for the local pro-indy party. The 3 main parties will still stand against each other and the turnout is usually much lower for a GE anyway. A lot of the Labour MPs only have small majorities so will be easy to wipe out.

                    The grassroots have a taste of the power we wield at the ballot box and won't let it go. There are rallies planned in Edinburgh this weekend and a big one in Glasgow in October to keep the momentum going.
                    Oh in your previous post I read you as saying Labour supporters would shift to ConDem, which seemed weird. But you weren't saying that.

                    If Scotland goes nearly entirely SNP, that will mean a right-leaning government which Scotland doesn't want. So they would be cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
                    Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                    I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                    Originally posted by vetran
                    Urine is quite nourishing

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                      Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
                      Leaving the vacuum to be filled by?????

                      Oh that is right............the Greens.....and the Tartan Tories(SNP)!

                      By the time of the next Election all the scattered toys will have been gathered up and the turnout will be down below 30%. Meaning that the OAPs will decide the fate of the country.
                      As always.
                      Are they going to seriously look at extending the vote to the 16-18 range do you reckon? Or was that a passing whim?
                      Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                      I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                      Originally posted by vetran
                      Urine is quite nourishing

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