Was the Scotland vote rigged?

[Unix]

Pity the question wasn't "Should Glasgow have independence?"

The debate is over, you ******* lost!

Now, live with it. No ifs, no buts, you came second, the first of the losers!

Show some backbone!

I accept we lost, but you can't deny the result will still cause major change in UK politics.

[NotAllThere]

I've only ever tasted Buckie once and that was in England 35 years ago.

Corrodes the tastebuds, does it?

[darmstadt]

Of course it was rigged, if Russia, home of democracy and liberal attitudes says it was, then it was

Russian Observers Say Westminter Put Pressure on Scots on Referendum Day | World | RIA Novosti

Russia cries foul over Scottish independence vote | Politics | theguardian.com

» Russian Election Observers: Westminster Rigged Scottish Independence Vote Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

[Churchill]

I accept we lost, but you can't deny the result will still cause major change in UK politics.

So what? We've been overdue change!

[Doggy Styles]

But if iScotland implemented sound economic policies, it could very well have recouped its losses some years afterwards and be on a sounder footing than the bubble prone rUK, unless it too reformed and told the banks that there will be no more bailouts and ended its fascination with the property market. This idea that any pain, whatsoever, must be avoided, even if it could potentially lead to longer term improvements is part of the problem. I hope the devolution is delivered upon and gives England more of an ability to set its own tax and welfare provision levels.

I agree with that. I've said elsewhere that if they want to go for independence again, they'll have to spend a generation strengthening their own local economy. But they'll find that very difficult with socialist politicians running the place.

[minestrone]

The fightback has begun. The grassroots movement is growing and planning ahead under the #the45 and #the45plus hashtags. We know we have 1.6 million supporters in the Yes movement. The other 2m are split between the other parties and some have already said they now regret voting no and will join up.

The SNP have added 5,000 members and the Green Party 2,000 since Thursday. Most of them were Labour supporters who can't stomach the fact the leadership colluded with the Tories.

You lost by 400,000 votes.

It's over.

[Unix]

You lost by 400,000 votes.

It's over.

I agree the independence debate is over for a long time maybe ever, this was the only chance. Looking forward to the general election now.

[Batcher]

You lost by 400,000 votes.

It's over.

We lost the battle but the war is still to be won.

There's the GE next year, the Scottish Elelctions in 2016 and possibly a referendum on the EU in 2017. We can have a big say in all of those. A new movement has been created and it will lead to Independence eventually.

[jemb]

We lost the battle but the war is still to be won.

There's the GE next year, the Scottish Elelctions in 2016 and possibly a referendum on the EU in 2017. We can have a big say in all of those. A new movement has been created and it will lead to Independence eventually.

It's done. Finished for a generation at least. The SNP needs to forget about all the independence tulip and concentrate on the upcoming elections. A ding gong between a resurgent Scottish Labour and the SNP will be good for everyone.

Nationalism is a tulip disease, and the UK as a functioning federal state with the largest economy in Europe by 2030 will hopefully kill it dead.

[Unix]

It's done. Finished for a generation at least. The SNP needs to forget about all the independence tulip and concentrate on the upcoming elections. A ding gong between a resurgent Scottish Labour and the SNP will be good for everyone.

Nationalism is a tulip disease, and the UK as a functioning federal state with the largest economy in Europe by 2030 will hopefully kill it dead.

I agree with you now, I still would have preferred Yes vote but you need to respect the democratic result assuming there is not a clear reneging on the vow. Although I can't see than happening as there would be hell to pay.