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Was the Scotland vote rigged?

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    #51
    Was the Scotland vote rigged?

    Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
    But you should be happy. The YES camp pushed the UK government into decentralisation. The type of change that usually requires a war to achieve.

    By the end of next year we will hopefully be living within a country that has greater decentralisation to England, Wales, Scotland & NI and still maintains the benefits of strong union.
    I wish this were true, but it won't be. The YES vote was the only way to bring about the change needed to rUK.

    Middleband stabbed his own brother in the back for power and has reneged his vow less than 24hrs after the election.

    Rather than working on how to get a labour majority in England (and thus not require the west Lothian factor) he is focused on failure of decentralising power and evening the playing field.

    So forever more we are stuck with an old Etonian elite focused on power and money for the few. 🙈🙊🙉
    http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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      #52
      Originally posted by jemb View Post
      It's done. Finished for a generation at least. The SNP needs to forget about all the independence tulip and concentrate on the upcoming elections. A ding gong between a resurgent Scottish Labour and the SNP will be good for everyone.

      Nationalism is a tulip disease, and the UK as a functioning federal state with the largest economy in Europe by 2030 will hopefully kill it dead.
      The SNP have just reported 9,063 new members since Friday morning taking membership to over 34,000, The Scottish Labour party are estimated to have in the region of 13,000 members. A lot of the new members are Labour supporters jumping ship due to the Labour Party being the public face of the Tories in the independence debate.

      A lot of union members resigned their memberships when their organisation backed the No campaign too.

      Moves are afoot to ensure Labour are decimated at the GE in Scotland.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Batcher View Post
        Moves are afoot to ensure Labour are decimated at the GE in Scotland.
        Sounds good. Gonna have to see it to believe it after the NO vote though.
        http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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          #54
          Yet more alleged rigging, different person this time.

          http://www.change.org/p/alex-salmond...share_petition
          "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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            #55
            The battle is over, the war continues...

            Alex Salmond says No voters were 'tricked' - Telegraph

            Alex Salmond has claimed No supporters were “tricked” into rejecting independence and raised the prospect of another referendum as he abandoned his promise to help unite Scotland after the divisive vote.

            The First Minister appeared to blame elderly Scots, who were most hostile to leaving the UK, for holding back younger generations and argued that independence is inevitable after they die off.

            In a startling intervention, he also claimed that another referendum may not be required to break up Britain as the Scottish Parliament could unilaterally declare independence after gaining increasing numbers of powers.........

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              #56
              Originally posted by Flashman View Post
              The battle is over, the war continues...

              Alex Salmond says No voters were 'tricked' - Telegraph
              Agreed. With the older generation no longer sweet sweet freedom will be ours.
              "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                #57
                Armando Iannucci in the Guardian

                In a world where we can now source anything online, download anything we want to see from any country in the world, and where we can pick and choose individual tracks, whatever programme, whichever individual item we need from whatever outlet – in this complete shopping basket world, they must be asking why on earth they're being forced to pick one party and its entire list of policies, rather than their own playlist of ideas. It simply doesn't make any kind of sense.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Flashman View Post
                  The battle is over, the war continues...

                  Alex Salmond says No voters were 'tricked' - Telegraph
                  Bad form from Salmond - if he's reneging on his promise to accept the result and help unite Scotland, why should the rUK keep their pledge either?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by meridian View Post
                    Bad form from Salmond - if he's reneging on his promise to accept the result and help unite Scotland, why should the rUK keep their pledge either?
                    Salmond has simply reverted to type. A petulant imbecile that is just miffed that he ran out of gullible numpties that were willing to buy his uncosted promises regarding what Independence might look like.
                    The sooner he fecks off back into the wilderness the better.
                    A smarmy chancer with the credibility of his Unicorns!!

                    “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by meridian View Post
                      Bad form from Salmond - if he's reneging on his promise to accept the result and help unite Scotland, why should the rUK keep their pledge either?
                      Because he is a politician blustering after defeat, and not those individuals who were led to vote "No" off the back of the commitments Westminster made. These commitments are to those voters and those of the rest of the UK, and not Alex Salmond. Now, in typical politician style, they could just walk away from them anyway, but then be faced with exactly the same threat, so I'd like to see them try it.

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