Was the Scotland vote rigged?

[Unix]

If YES had enjoyed a small majority, what about the 1.6 million people who didn't vote for independence, and the fact the capital of the country voted no?

Once they saw the scare stories didn't pan out they would change their mind. The remaining could move to rUK if they love it so much.

[d000hg]

So you think everybody who voted NO actually wanted to be independent in an ideal world, but were scared off? They didn't, perhaps, simply prefer to be part of the UK?

[Unix]

So you think everybody who voted NO actually wanted to be independent in an ideal world, but were scared off? They didn't, perhaps, simply prefer to be part of the UK?

The majority who voted no where 55+ who get their news from the news papers and are worried about pensions disprove this point.

[Doggy Styles]

So you think everybody who voted NO actually wanted to be independent in an ideal world, but were scared off? They didn't, perhaps, simply prefer to be part of the UK?

Not all perhaps, but I'd stick my neck out and say that most of them, enough to have made it a very big Yes majority, would have voted for independence if it wasn't for the economics.

We've been over this many times but the economics are overwhelming: the lack of Barnett Formula funding, the lack of a currency, their share of the UK national debt, the threat of large employers relocating, the slowing down of oil production, and the lack of EU membership to support them.

They know what side their bread is buttered.

[tomtomagain]

The issue is settled. The majority of the Scottish population voted to remain within a changed United Kingdom.

This was a high-water mark for the Independence movement. There has never been a majority of people in Scotland wishing to split the Union.

If you cannot get a majority when you have:

a) A highly charismatic and popular leader
b) An unpopular Tory government enforcing austerity
c) Coming out of the worst economic crisis in 80 years
d) Some oil left.

Then you'll never get it.

But you should be happy. The YES camp pushed the UK government into decentralisation. The type of change that usually requires a war to achieve.

By the end of next year we will hopefully be living within a country that has greater decentralisation to England, Wales, Scotland & NI and still maintains the benefits of strong union.

[Unix]

The issue is settled. The majority of the Scottish population voted to remain within a changed United Kingdom.

This was a high-water mark for the Independence movement. There has never been a majority of people in Scotland wishing to split the Union.

If you cannot get a majority when you have:

a) A highly charismatic and popular leader
b) An unpopular Tory government enforcing austerity
c) Coming out of the worst economic crisis in 80 years
d) Some oil left.

Then you'll never get it.

But you should be happy. The YES camp pushed the UK government into decentralisation. The type of change that usually requires a war to achieve.

By the end of next year we will hopefully be living within a country that has greater decentralisation to England, Wales, Scotland & NI and still maintains the benefits of strong union.

As long as the decentralisation happens then I agree it will be settled as many No voters do as well. If nothing changes there will be a huge backlash and polls will reveal the Yes vote surging. Would love them to continue the polls over the next few years.

[Old Greg]

As long as the decentralisation happens then I agree it will be settled as many No voters do as well. If nothing changes there will be a huge backlash and polls will reveal the Yes vote surging. Would love them to continue the polls over the next few years.

In the meantime we'll be selling all your oil, loser.

[Zero Liability]

Not all perhaps, but I'd stick my neck out and say that most of them, enough to have made it a very big Yes majority, would have voted for independence if it wasn't for the economics.

We've been over this many times but the economics are overwhelming: the lack of Barnett Formula funding, the lack of a currency, their share of the UK national debt, the threat of large employers relocating, the slowing down of oil production, and the lack of EU membership to support them.

They know what side their bread is buttered.

But if iScotland implemented sound economic policies, it could very well have recouped its losses some years afterwards and be on a sounder footing than the bubble prone rUK, unless it too reformed and told the banks that there will be no more bailouts and ended its fascination with the property market. This idea that any pain, whatsoever, must be avoided, even if it could potentially lead to longer term improvements is part of the problem. I hope the devolution is delivered upon and gives England more of an ability to set its own tax and welfare provision levels.

[Unix]

In the meantime we'll be selling all your oil, loser.

Thought you supported Yes vote, make up your mind (if you have one)

[Unix]

First bit already broken... not going to end well.