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Salmond "We can take Scotland in two weeks"
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Originally posted by Batcher View PostIMO it's nonsense to suggest other countries in the EU would want to 'punish' Scotland for wanting to be an independent nation. It's already a country in it's own right with it's own education and justice systems.
It's the first independence campaign I can think of that has come about by democratic means rather than the bomb and the bullet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottis...iberation_ArmyLast edited by Old Greg; 16 September 2014, 16:02.Comment
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Anyway, the SNLA aren't around for this referendum.Comment
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Uncertain economics
Robert Peston, BBC Economic editor
Here is the bad news if you haven't made up your mind whether to vote for Scotland to become independent - economic analysis cannot give you the answer.
That is partly because this dismal science is not capable of giving wholly (and sometimes even partly) accurate forecasts about the future prosperity of nations.
Look at the case of a comparably sized small country, Ireland. A decade ago many economists (and others) saw it as a rip-roaring success, that had become considerably richer on a per-head basis than the UK.
Then three years ago it looked like a total basket case, as its property sector and banks imploded.
Today it can be seen as a model of how a determined small country can reconstruct its economy in adversity, in stark contrast to the inertia in a bigger country such as Italy.Comment
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I actually think that if it is a yes the negotiation period will be so disastrous that reality will sink in for many and separation will be averted.Comment
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostI actually think that if it is a yes the negotiation period will be so disastrous that reality will sink in for many and separation will be averted.Comment
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If we don't get CU, which we wont and we get told we are not going to be in the EU for a minimum of 5 years and we have to take in the euro then I think there will be a panic. Especially as people get told they are losing their jobs.
I can see another referendum on what is negotiated, I Can see some unions going on strike to force that. I don't think yes guarantees separation.Comment
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Originally posted by Batcher View PostUncertain economics
Robert Peston, BBC Economic editor
Here is the bad news if you haven't made up your mind whether to vote for Scotland to become independent - economic analysis cannot give you the answer.
That is partly because this dismal science is not capable of giving wholly (and sometimes even partly) accurate forecasts about the future prosperity of nations.
Look at the case of a comparably sized small country, Ireland. A decade ago many economists (and others) saw it as a rip-roaring success, that had become considerably richer on a per-head basis than the UK.
Then three years ago it looked like a total basket case, as its property sector and banks imploded.
Today it can be seen as a model of how a determined small country can reconstruct its economy in adversity, in stark contrast to the inertia in a bigger country such as Italy.
"But, my goodness! It has experienced misery in the past few years, in the form of savage wage cuts and high unemployment."
Their economy bombed, they are still in a period of austerity and have an unemployment rate 2x that of the UK.
If the lesson you are taking from this is that post a Yes vote the Scottish economy will hit the rocks are require reconstruction post adversity then you are not far off the mark.Comment
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostIf we don't get CU, which we wont and we get told we are not going to be in the EU for a minimum of 5 years and we have to take in the euro then I think there will be a panic. Especially as people get told they are losing their jobs.
I can see another referendum on what is negotiated, I Can see some unions going on strike to force that. I don't think yes guarantees separation.Comment
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Originally posted by Batcher View PostUncertain economics
Robert Peston, BBC Economic editor
Here is the bad news if you haven't made up your mind whether to vote for Scotland to become independent - economic analysis cannot give you the answer.
That is partly because this dismal science is not capable of giving wholly (and sometimes even partly) accurate forecasts about the future prosperity of nations.
I think Scotland could do very well, but the Yes campaign isn't explaining under what conditions that may be and is selling a platform whereby oil and a currency union are a panacea. This is the wrong message to put out and is not very honest.Last edited by Zero Liability; 16 September 2014, 19:08.Comment
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