Salmond "We can take Scotland in two weeks"

[TestMangler]

It's what I've been saying all along.

A worrying new trend ?

[SueEllen]

What part of 'Newly Independent Country' are you having a problem with?

Scotland is not a current member of the EU, the UK is. Scotland will be a newly independent country, and consequently a new member of all international organizations. Are you trying to tell me that Scotland will automatically have a UN veto because the UK has one? It really does seem quite open and shut, new country, new application to join international bodies. You don't automatically inherit all the memberships of the country you've seceded from.
BTW the Spanish are making it quite clear that if you want to be in the EU iScotland will HAVE to use the Euro and they will NOT inherit any of the UK opts outs. New country and all that goes with it.

In a statement, Mr Pitella said: "An independent Scotland would have no automatic right to the various special treatments that the UK has been granted over the last few decades, from the budget rebate to having no obligation to join the euro or participate in the Schengen area of travel without frontier controls. No new member has been accorded such special treatment.”

This is going to cause a problem for the rUK and Ireland.

[northernladyuk]

unfortunately several EU members want to make entry as painful as possible.

That's how the old man likes it.

[Old Greg]

This is going to cause a problem for the rUK and Ireland.

It's just posturing. An accommodation can be found to let iScotland into the EU and CTA. Probably. But the risk remains.

[Batcher]

Don't worry. He's already sent your postal vote in for you.

<--- my avatar is me filling in someone else's postal vote.

[sirja]

That is absolutely not 'certain'. Is it 'certain' that an accommodation won't be found to allow Scotland in? You talk as much bollocks as Salmond.

In between, free hot and cold running unicorns for all citizens and the end of civilisation, lies the truth. And the truth is that it will probably be fine but there are significant risks.

Why do you say it's certain an accommodation will be found to let Scotland in? is it not just possible that the EU would want to 'punish' and independent Scotland to act as a deterrence to Flanders and Catalonia. I find it strange that you seem to just overlook the fact that the EU are not quite big on nationalist tendencies. I admit I am not certain, nobody can be, but if you read all the comments from EU officials, they've not exactly been welcoming and warm to a potentially independent Scotland.

[SueEllen]

<--- my avatar is me filling in someone else's postal vote.

You aren't in Birmingham......

[jemb]

Why do you say it's certain an accommodation will be found to let Scotland in? is it not just possible that the EU would want to 'punish' and independent Scotland to act as a deterrence to Flanders and Catalonia. I find it strange that you seem to just overlook the fact that the EU are not quite big on nationalist tendencies. I admit I am not certain, nobody can be, but if you read all the comments from EU officials, they've not exactly been welcoming and warm to a potentially independent Scotland.

there will be no punishing, I doubt most countries really give a f***. There will be politics and the EU both of which will work at their own pace.

[Old Greg]

But that's what people have been trying to tell the Yes camp for months now. Spain will make it as hard as posible for Scotland to join the EU in order not to encourage Catalonia. I would expect Belgium to do the same so as not to encourage Flanders. Eventually an Independent Scotland would join the EU, but it certainly won't be at independence.

That is absolutely not 'certain'. Is it 'certain' that an accommodation won't be found to allow Scotland in? You talk as much bollocks as Salmond.

In between, free hot and cold running unicorns for all citizens and the end of civilisation, lies the truth. And the truth is that it will probably be fine but there are significant risks.

Why do you say it's certain an accommodation will be found to let Scotland in? is it not just possible that the EU would want to 'punish' and independent Scotland to act as a deterrence to Flanders and Catalonia. I find it strange that you seem to just overlook the fact that the EU are not quite big on nationalist tendencies. I admit I am not certain, nobody can be, but if you read all the comments from EU officials, they've not exactly been welcoming and warm to a potentially independent Scotland.

You lot are hard work.

You are the one saying things are certain (although you then change to say you are not certain). I am saying they are not certain. Do you see?

[minestrone]

What's all this about Ed being jostled. whacked on the head with sign.

Yes mobs out of control again it seems.