Salmond "We can take Scotland in two weeks"

[Batcher]

Yes they are.

Mary, Queen of Scots ---> James I and VI of England and Scotland ---> Elizabeth of Bohemia ---> Sophia of Hanover ---> George I ---> George II ---> Frederick, Prince of Wales ---> George III ---> Edward, Duke of Kent and Strathearn ---> Queen Victoria --> Edward VII ---> George V ----> George VII ----> Elizabeth II

The Stuarts were the first kings of the United Kingdom. King James I of England who began the period was also King James VI of Scotland, thus combining the two thrones for the first time.

The Stuart dynasty reigned in England and Scotland from 1603 to 1714, a period which saw a flourishing Court culture but also much upheaval and instability, of plague, fire and war.

It was an age of intense religious debate and radical politics. Both contributed to a bloody civil war in the mid-seventeenth century between Crown and Parliament (the Cavaliers and the Roundheads), resulting in a parliamentary victory for Oliver Cromwell and the dramatic execution of King Charles I.

There was a short-lived republic, the first time that the country had experienced such an event.

The Restoration of the Crown was soon followed by another 'Glorious' Revolution. William and Mary of Orange ascended the throne as joint monarchs and defenders of Protestantism, followed by Queen Anne, the second of James II's daughters.

The end of the Stuart line with the death of Queen Anne led to the drawing up of the Act of Settlement in 1701, which provided that only Protestants could hold the throne.

The next in line according to the provisions of this act was George of Hanover, yet Stuart princes remained in the wings. The Stuart legacy was to linger on in the form of claimants to the Crown for another century.

From the Royal family website

[TestMangler]

The Scots want a referendum for independence from the UK. Why then shouldn't the Orkneys and Shetlands not be allowed a referendum for staying out of Scotland?

LOL. Serious question ? Really ??

OK, back in the mists of time, a party emerged called the SNP.

They called for an Independence Refurendum and everyone laughed. They eventually won a seat at Westminster and many years later, became the official opposition in the Scottish Parliament. They then went on to form a minority government in the Scottish Parliament.

Next, they won a majority in the Scottish Parliament, and put in front of that parliament, a vote on holding a referendum on independence, which was voted for by a majority in the parliament, so we're having that referendum.

So, if, lets call them 'OrkShet For Independence' were to create a party and win majority support in the Scottish Parliament, they could hold a referendum on their Independence, as could Aberdeen, Gretna, Mull, Skye, Arran or anywhere else that felt like it.

In fact, a gob tulipe like you could start a party in England calling for a referendum to separate England from all it's associated neighbours in the UK and Europe and, if you could find support in your parliament, put that to a vote on the floor and make it happen.

I would support your endeavours 100% as I would support the rights of 'OrkShet' to do the same.

Standing up and saying 'I demand a referendum' doesn't make it happen, to Scotland, Shetlend, the people's public of Jebrovia or anywhere.

[DodgyAgent]

LOL. Serious question ? Really ??

OK, back in the mists of time, a party emerged called the SNP.

They called for an Independence Refurendum and everyone laughed. They eventually won a seat at Westminster and many years later, became the official opposition in the Scottish Parliament. They then went on to form a minority government in the Scottish Parliament.

Next, they won a majority in the Scottish Parliament, and put in front of that parliament, a vote on holding a referendum on independence, which was voted for by a majority in the parliament, so we're having that referendum.

So, if, lets call them 'OrkShet For Independence' were to create a party and win majority support in the Scottish Parliament, they could hold a referendum on their Independence, as could Aberdeen, Gretna, Mull, Skye, Arran or anywhere else that felt like it.

In fact, a gob tulipe like you could start a party in England calling for a referendum to separate England from all it's associated neighbours in the UK and Europe and, if you could find support in your parliament, put that to a vote on the floor and make it happen.

I would support your endeavours 100% as I would support the rights of 'OrkShet' to do the same.

Standing up and saying 'I demand a referendum' doesn't make it happen, to Scotland, Shetlend, the people's public of Jebrovia or anywhere.

Orkshet as you call it has had no interest in independence. Things may well change if Scotland becomes independent. Orkshet has legitimate claims to independence that other parts of Scotland do not have (I see you are neatly trying to put them all into the same category)

Your feeble attempt to set a rule according to the behaviour of the SNP and to spuin the Islanders into the same camp as say Aberdeen won't work.

[Old Greg]

Orkshet as you call it has had no interest in independence. Things may well change if Scotland becomes independent. Orkshet has legitimate claims to independence that other parts of Scotland do not have (I see you are neatly trying to put them all into the same category)

Your feeble attempt to set a rule according to the behaviour of the SNP and to spuin the Islanders into the same camp as say Aberdeen won't work.

So if there is a desire for a different constitutional arrangement, let it play out, but it won't be in the next two weeks.

[minestrone]

The nationalists claim that there will be a CU when there clearly won't be one is laughable.

[DodgyAgent]

So if there is a desire for a different constitutional arrangement, let it play out, but it won't be in the next two weeks.

So why are you trying to say that because there is not already a movement or initiative the point is irrelevant?

[Old Greg]

So why are you trying to say that because there is not already a movement or initiative the point is irrelevant?

Please rewrite this sentence in an intelligible manner, if that is within your limited capabilities.

[tomtomagain]

Happy to take the risk, said it all before.

So for you independence at any price?

The tragedy of all this for me is that Salmond and his ilk are too busy crowing "It's Scotlands Pound too". When they should be saying "It's Scotlands Union too".

[darmstadt]

The reason why the RBS computer system kept ******* up was, because they were secretly mining Bitcoins You read it here first, the new currency for Scotland will be the Scotcoin, virtual currency...

[scooterscot]

The reason why the RBS computer system kept ******* up was, because they were secretly mining Bitcoins You read it here first, the new currency for Scotland will be the Scotcoin, virtual currency...

They'll use the pound. And no one the rUK can stop them.