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Salmond "We can take Scotland in two weeks"

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    Originally posted by Batcher View Post
    You're making the same mistake that the vast majority of Westminster MPs, MSM and English folk are making. This is not a vote for the SNP, there is a huge grassroots movement for independence.

    Alistair Darling, Gordon Brown, et al keep going on about Alex Salmond and the SNP, referring to anyone who supports independence on the internet as Cybernats. They are hacking off a lot of the electorate who wouldn't dream of voting for Alex Salmond. There are groups such as Labour for Independence, Women for Independence, The Greens, Scots Asians for Independence, Radical socialists for Independence, etc., etc., etc.

    The Westminster system is broken and the only way we can see to get back on track is to go independent. Scotland is full of natural resources, not least of which is the people of Scotland. We know the rUK will hope to see us crash and burn but we have a stubborn streak that will ensure we will do everything in our power to prove you wrong.
    The easiest thing in the world is to criticise the status quo but few have the wit or intelligence to propose a better alternative.

    The no campaign have not the slightest vision of what will actually happen to Scotland if it becomes independent. The chippy little nobodies are more concerned about satisfying their own anti English sentiments than they care about the practicalities of dealing with the changes that will take place.
    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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      Originally posted by jemb View Post
      Yes - Swinney threatened to walk away from the debt if Scotland wasn't given a CU. Leading to international banks warning that not only would a Scottish Goverment see borrowing costs up to 4% higher, but also Germany and, other EU members, warning that entry to the EU would not be possible under such circumstanes.

      Standard Life have just announced that they would move assets out of the country and we would likely see a capital flight from other companies.

      This has stopped being funny.

      Are we going to let Standard fecking Life, the Germans or the EU dictate to use whether we should be Independent. Screw that, vote Yes and then we can make Scotland great. Oooohh standard life said we should vote no, I'm scared mummy!!!
      Last edited by Unix; 10 September 2014, 13:33.

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        Originally posted by Batcher View Post
        We know the rUK will hope to see us crash and burn but we have a stubborn streak that will ensure we will do everything in our power to prove you wrong.
        There you go. As soon as it all starts going wrong, it won't be the decision that is the problem but the RUK putting the boot into us Scots. Pathetic.

        I thought we'd left this bollocks behind us years ago...

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          Originally posted by Unix View Post
          Are we going to let Standard fecking Life, the Germans or the EU dictate to use whether we should be Independent. Screw that, vote Yes and then we can make Scotland great.
          You're kidding right? No EU, no cash, no CU - but just us dougty scots showing what? that we really are a bunch of tits?

          Jeez......

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            Has anyone told the small minded chippy scots that 10% of something is better than 100% of nothing?
            Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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              Originally posted by Batcher View Post
              We know the rUK will hope to see us crash and burn .
              Well you are wrong on that account.

              I am British. My mother is Scottish and my father is English AND I don't see that it is the right of people living a bit further up the country to have the exclusive right to divide up MY country, the United Kingdom of Great Britain.

              I certainly don't think it is the right of Salmond and Cameron to decide between themselves to split up this country.

              I do not agree that with the fact that my mother, born and lived in Scotland for 35 years, should not get a vote. I do not agree that I, as a citizen of the UK, should not get a say on the separation of MY country.

              I am not a little Englander, I am definitely not a little Scotlander. I am a Great Britain-er.

              I have carefully and objectively tried to look at the facts over the last 18 months. I have not heard one convincing argument that tells me that my relatives in Scotland are going to be any happier, any freer or any wealthier if the country is split up.

              The UK ( I refuse to call it rUK ) will be marginally smaller economically. Scotland will be significantly dis-empowered.

              This vote is introducing division where none needs to exist.

              I am a great supporter of de-centralised power and I believe greater de-centralisation of political power to the ALL the regions of England, Scotland and Wales would be a great thing. But I cannot see any rational at all in breaking up what has been a by all standards a hugely successful political union.

              An independent Scotland has very little upside. But an awful lot of downside.

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                Don't believe anything you read in the Daily Mail. Don't forget they have a Scottish edition which often has headlines the polar opposite of the English version. They want to sell newspapers, end off.

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                  Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
                  Well you are wrong on that account.

                  I am British. My mother is Scottish and my father is English AND I don't see that it is the right of people living a bit further up the country to have the exclusive right to divide up MY country, the United Kingdom of Great Britain.

                  I certainly don't think it is the right of Salmond and Cameron to decide between themselves to split up this country.

                  I do not agree that with the fact that my mother, born and lived in Scotland for 35 years, should not get a vote. I do not agree that I, as a citizen of the UK, should not get a say on the separation of MY country.

                  I am not a little Englander, I am definitely not a little Scotlander. I am a Great Britain-er.

                  I have carefully and objectively tried to look at the facts over the last 18 months. I have not heard one convincing argument that tells me that my relatives in Scotland are going to be any happier, any freer or any wealthier if the country is split up.

                  The UK ( I refuse to call it rUK ) will be marginally smaller economically. Scotland will be significantly dis-empowered.

                  This vote is introducing division where none needs to exist.

                  I am a great supporter of de-centralised power and I believe greater de-centralisation of political power to the ALL the regions of England, Scotland and Wales would be a great thing. But I cannot see any rational at all in breaking up what has been a by all standards a hugely successful political union.

                  An independent Scotland has very little upside. But an awful lot of downside.
                  Of course they have the right. It is called national self-determination. Have you thought about the alternatives? The best thing about this process is that we are demonstrating that these matters are solvable by democratic means.

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                    And before minestrone soup pipes up, from the BBC:

                    Business support for 'Yes'

                    Pro-independence group Business for Scotland has released the names of another 100 business people who support a "Yes" vote.

                    The list includes Doug Duguid, CEO of Enermech, Marcus Adams of Friends Provident International, Ian Godden, chairman of Glenmore Energy and Allan Dallas, managing director of Ross-Shire Engineering.

                    The group already has high-profile members including Stagecoach chief Sir Brian Soutar, Clyde Blowers chairman Jim McColl and two Michelin-starred restaurant owner Andrew Fairlie.

                    Business for Scotland chairman Tony Banks said the organisation now had 2,650 members. He added: "Business people know the only way to create more jobs in Scotland is with a Yes vote.

                    "These business leaders understand the importance of job creating powers, and so have joined the many successful Scottish business people who have backed Yes in public in recent weeks."

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                      Originally posted by Batcher View Post
                      You're making the same mistake that the vast majority of Westminster MPs, MSM and English folk are making. This is not a vote for the SNP, there is a huge grassroots movement for independence.

                      Alistair Darling, Gordon Brown, et al keep going on about Alex Salmond and the SNP, referring to anyone who supports independence on the internet as Cybernats. They are hacking off a lot of the electorate who wouldn't dream of voting for Alex Salmond. There are groups such as Labour for Independence, Women for Independence, The Greens, Scots Asians for Independence, Radical socialists for Independence, etc., etc., etc.

                      The Westminster system is broken and the only way we can see to get back on track is to go independent. Scotland is full of natural resources, not least of which is the people of Scotland. We know the rUK will hope to see us crash and burn but we have a stubborn streak that will ensure we will do everything in our power to prove you wrong.
                      This is mostly reasonable bit you are imagining ill will against Scotland.

                      So why talk crap about currency?

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