Shiny new website...

[malvolio]

You certainly know how to keep digging a hole.

You're the one on the hole, sunshine. There's a huge growth in independent workers going on, most of whom aren't agency contractor bitches.

[JustinTime]

You're the one on the hole, sunshine. There's a huge growth in independent workers going on, most of whom aren't agency contractor bitches.

Was that a sales pitch?
One can't help feeling that one needs to work on one's personal skills.

[eek]

You're the one on the hole, sunshine. There's a huge growth in independent workers going on, most of whom aren't agency contractor bitches.

Yes, there is a large increase in people claiming to be "self employed" as it allows them to keep their benefits.

That doesn't quite tally with them being independent professionals.

And to emphasis the fact many councils have published documentation on what they do..

https://www.gateshead.gov.uk/Documen...loyedGuide.pdf

[mudskipper]

Self employment isn't painted in a positive light.

Most New UK Jobs Are For Self-Employed And Hit By Falling Income

"The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said that self-employed Britons made up two-thirds (732,000) of the 1.1 million jobs that were created since 2008, while their average income has slipped by 22% to £207 a week."

[malvolio]

Was that a sales pitch?
One can't help feeling that one needs to work on one's personal skills.

I've been putting out the same message for around ten years, I'm not about to change now. But if you look at what's being said, 95% is pointless whinge about trivia and 5% asking questions. About average for the forum, tbh.

The background about why the change has been made is all over the IPSE website, as is a summary of what has been achieved over the years. Perhaps some on here should have a read.

eek]Yes, there is a large increase in people claiming to be "self employed" to keep their benefits.

That doesn't quite tally with them being independent professionals.

And that explains the huge proportion of university leavers how...?

Of course, there's an element of what you're saying, but the point is there's a lot of people working without a contract of employment. They still need support and representation, whether you call them "professionals" or not. And, amazingly to most on here I suspect, IR35 is a minor element of that support.

Incidentally, how do you get to be an IT "professional"? I've been at it 30-odd years now and still haven't seen a certificate to say I am one...

[Jubber]

Incidentally, how do you get to be an IT "professional"? I've been at it 30-odd years now and still haven't seen a certificate to say I am one...

Buy a book, blag the contract, trouser the dosh -simples

[eek]

I've been putting out the same message for around ten years, I'm not about to change now. But if you look at what's being said, 95% is pointless whinge about trivia and 5% asking questions. About average for the forum, tbh.

The background about why the change has been made is all over the IPSE website, as is a summary of what has been achieved over the years. Perhaps some on here should have a read.


And that explains the huge proportion of university leavers how...?

Of course, there's an element of what you're saying, but the point is there's a lot of people working without a contract of employment. They still need support and representation, whether you call them "professionals" or not. And, amazingly to most on here I suspect, IR35 is a minor element of that support.

Incidentally, how do you get to be an IT "professional"? I've been at it 30-odd years now and still haven't seen a certificate to say I am one...

The huge proportion of university leavers is for the same reason there are an awful large amount of self employed care workers.

Self employment allows companies to avoid taking people on, on a proper basis. Granted there are some people who actively do not want to be employed but I think most simply don't have the choose of an employed position.

Now granted there needs to be an organisation to support those unavoidably self employed people. However, nothing I've seen from PCG over the past 14 years makes me think they are the appropriate people to perform that task. Unison or the GMB would be a far better bet..

[eek]

And as if to instantly prove my point this thread appears..

http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...contracts.html

[TheFaQQer]

The background about why the change has been made is all over the IPSE website, as is a summary of what has been achieved over the years. Perhaps some on here should have a read.

"Preventing UK professionals being undercut by imported workers"

Phew! I for one am glad to see that IPSE has done their bit to make sure that there aren't any imported workers undercutting rates in IT.

[Old Greg]

You're the one on the hole, sunshine. There's a huge growth in independent workers going on, most of whom aren't agency contractor bitches.

It's helpful to understand your view on agency contractor bitches. But it's a bit much to give out bad advice on opting out isn't it?