Contractor dismissed over Body Tattoo's - the tattoo debate

[ZARDOZ]

I'm not sure what I've said to get your knickers in a twist.

It's no good getting shirty, you CAN generalise working class people as liking tattoos and Sky and smoking and aspiring to a 60" TV. But the point is, middle class are just as much sheep... you just generalise them in different ways. The middle class people I know tend to act out middle-class stereotypes, the working class types tend to follow working-class stereotypes, and so on.

You can generalise as much as you like, but you would be wrong. I've known plenty enough working class people and few had tattoos. Not that it's a bad thing. I can only think of one person currently I know who has a Tattoo and that person is an Associate Director level manager at clientco.

[Spartacus]

There was a lady who used to post here (maybe she still does, as I can't remember her moniker and shamefully can't remember her RW name) who had a really beautiful tattoo all around her thigh*. Like I say, I can admire a really beautiful tattoo, but I am too chicken to have one myself.

* Before anyone goes off all hot and bothered, it was legitimately on display at the first CUK Christmas do, way back when.

[d000hg]

Ive got the longest place name in wales tattoed somewhere you cant see it. Twice.

Your feet? Oh wait, that's somewhere YOU can't see it!

You can generalise as much as you like, but you would be wrong.

Someone fails to understand what generalisation means. In general, working/lower (I don't know the generic term for the people who are poor/deprived/uneducated but no longer do working class jobs) class people have tattoos more than middle class people, smoke more, etc. e.g. take a 1000 of each group and see how many have tattoos and how many smoke.

Whether your working class acquaintances have tattoos isn't relevant as a sample size. Perhaps they're not really working class and you're confusing "working class" with "doesn't have a southern accent"

[SpontaneousOrder]

Someone fails to understand what generalisation means. In general, working/lower (I don't know the generic term for the people who are poor/deprived/uneducated but no longer do working class jobs) class people have tattoos more than middle class people, smoke more, etc. e.g. take a 1000 of each group and see how many have tattoos and how many smoke.

Not hard, is it?

[ZARDOZ]

Your feet? Oh wait, that's somewhere YOU can't see it!

Someone fails to understand what generalisation means. In general, working/lower (I don't know the generic term for the people who are poor/deprived/uneducated but no longer do working class jobs) class people have tattoos more than middle class people, smoke more, etc. e.g. take a 1000 of each group and see how many have tattoos and how many smoke.

Whether your working class acquaintances have tattoos isn't relevant as a sample size. Perhaps they're not really working class and you're confusing "working class" with "doesn't have a southern accent"

I'm not confusing anything, but not sure why you are bringing smoking into it. You are implying that having a Tattoo is largely determined by intelligence and social class. Without proof that is just your small minded snobbery.

[SpontaneousOrder]

I'm not confusing anything, but not sure why you are bringing smoking into it. You are implying that having a Tattoo is largely determined by intelligence and social class. Without proof that is just your small minded snobbery.

Correlated with.

[cailin maith]

There was a lady who used to post here (maybe she still does, as I can't remember her moniker and shamefully can't remember her RW name) who had a really beautiful tattoo all around her thigh*. Like I say, I can admire a really beautiful tattoo, but I am too chicken to have one myself.

* Before anyone goes off all hot and bothered, it was legitimately on display at the first CUK Christmas do, way back when.

Was it Warrior Princess?

This debate comes round regularly on here. I bet there are plenty of people who have tattoo's that no one is aware of.

My old boss said it was ok to have as many tattoo's as I liked.... as long as no one can see them.

To be fair - I'm not sure I'd want to take professional advice from someone head to toe in ink but then that's pretty small minded especially considering I have a few myself and know that it doesn't affect how well you do your job or whatever.

Prejudice - ugh.

[d000hg]

I'm not confusing anything, but not sure why you are bringing smoking into it. You are implying that having a Tattoo is largely determined by intelligence and social class. Without proof that is just your small minded snobbery.

No, you are desperate to put such words in my mouth so you can argue them.

I said tattoos are more common in the working classes. You're assuming that because I associate tattoos with the working classes that I am passing judgement on them because you want to believe I think badly of the working classes. I never mentioned intelligence or said anything derogatory about tattoos or the working classes, the fact you assume that suggests you're prejudiced really.

I'm bringing smoking into it because that is another thing that is more common among the less educated demographic. I'm not making a judgement on that either. It's just the way things are.

[ZARDOZ]

Correlated with.

I think it's much more complicated than that. I'm willing to be proven wrong but by factual evidence only.

[darmstadt]

A reasonably successful not working class tattooed man:

Vladimír Franz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
English :: Vladimír Franz

The art of tattooing is accompanying mankind since time immemorial. In addition to the original magic and ritual function, it represents also an aesthetic function. Of course - an aesthetic point of view is a matter of each free individual. Tattooing is an expression of free will, not touching the freedom of others. It is an expression of permanent and unchangeable decision to stand up for your opinion, in both good and bad. (...) My tattooing is result of a long-term sophisticated concept, not a sudden emotion.