Public sector take it or leave it rate cuts are back, then

[northernladuk]

Notice that they want to know by March 5th. Pity - you could have strung it along until the Friday before just to wind them up.

They want it all they're own way it seems.

In reality, if it was me and I liked the gig I'd probably stay but I'd be hoping that others would get something sorted and leave just to prove a point.

Typical client hating, not understanding the business relationship rubbish as usual. Both posts.

[DirtyDog]

Notice that they want to know by March 5th. Pity - you could have strung it along until the Friday before just to wind them up.

They want it all they're own way it seems.

They need to give notice to terminate the current contract and get a new one in place. March 5th to April 1st is 28 days notice, which would fit most / all contractors there.

[d000hg]

In the meantime use the opportunity to reduce the notice period to zero and ask them if they are prepared to cut the work required in a week by the same 6%

If you ask for a rate increase of 10% do you promise to work 110% as hard? This is the response of a petulant child.

You can do 94% of the work you do now, but then you'll be paid 94% of 94% of what you earn now.

[psychocandy]

Typical client hating, not understanding the business relationship rubbish as usual. Both posts.

NLUK - You've spoilt my whole weekend now knowing that you don't love me after all!

[northernladuk]

They want it all they're own way it seems.

Couple of people, PC included (as usual) forgetting that plenty of contractors are happy to expect rate rises at renewals for no particular reason. They don't often get them because they are not willing to see it through. The client is exercising a rate cut and is standing by his guns but people are getting upset. Cuts both ways.

I have made a lot more money from negotiating rate rises than I have for clients cutting the rate. If anyone wants it their own way it's PC and others that think this is unacceptable and part of clients leaning on contractors.

As for

Notice that they want to know by March 5th. Pity - you could have strung it along until the Friday before just to wind them up.

In reality, if it was me and I liked the gig I'd probably stay but I'd be hoping that others would get something sorted and leave just to prove a point.

The hypocrisy makes my teeth hurt. Wind them up? prove a point? What a lot of utter bollox. Totally unprofessional and guess who would be the first one to be crying if the client did this.

Did I mention 'want it their own way'?

[psychocandy]

But not mid-contract. Thats different.

[northernladuk]

But not mid-contract. Thats different.

You are quite welcome to do it should market pressures come to bear. If you had to lose the house or demand a rate increase you would. Nothing stopping you do it.

I am sure they don't take these decisions lightly and thankfully it's very rare. It's not just contractors either, I am sure it is across all suppliers.

It is different, but so is the situation between being a supplier and being a client.

[SueEllen]

But not mid-contract. Thats different.

It could be worse they could just go bust...

[d000hg]

Since they say the choice is cut rates by 6% or be forced to terminate people, then if lots of people choose to walk presumably the cuts will be reduced accordingly.

[7specialgems]

But not mid-contract. Thats different.

Every beginning has an end and the contract has termination clauses on both sides, available to both parties at any time. The current deal is no longer viable to the client and they've (via the pimp) communicated their revised offer. No complaints with that at all.

What has grinded my gears is the language used by the pimp and the implied demeanor of the client. As someone has already pointed out, confirm acceptance? Only acceptance? Reluctance to negotiate and punish the contractor because the well has run out of water? 'Ck off...

I can see both sides though. There are plenty of comments on this forum that lambaste contractors for being unprofessional by invoking notice and not seeing a contract through. That too cuts both ways.