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    A couple of newbie CV questions

    Hi All,

    I've never had any problems getting phone calls when looking for permie work, and to be fair, things aren't going too badly now I'm looking for contracts but there are a few queries I have after reading comments on the forums. I'm going to upload a new version of my CV soon, and I want it to be spot on for contracting. I appreciate that these are very basic questions, but I'm happy with my overall CV so I'm just looking to really tweak it up.

    1) Should I include my address? I've always been taught to do so, but there was a recent thread where a few people said they didn't. The few [non-contracting] people I've mentioned this to said that they would see this as a red flag, but I can also see the counter argument that it's normal for contractors to apply further afield and the address may put me at a disadvantage. I will be applying for contracts nationwide, so this is relevant to me.

    2) Should I use my personal e-mail address or my new companies e-mail address (I.e. firstname@mydomain.co.uk vs firstname@mycompaniesdomain.co.uk). I doubt this matters too much, but I'm trying to wrap my head around acting as a company (Which is how I intend to conduct myself) vs fitting in with what people want from their contractors. IMHO, a real Business to Business deal would never have a CV involved anyway, but ho hum.

    3) Should I add my future agreed end date from my current permie job. When looking for permanent work, you'd generally put "[Date Started] - Present" for your current job, because everybody all but expects you to be working. But I've seen another school of thought mentioned which is that people like to know you're available. I'm available starting in March, so should I put "Feb" as the end date for my current job, even though I've not quite left?

    And is there anything else that should differ between a CV of a permie worker and that of a contractor?

    #2
    Lots of differences, mostly in approach.

    Don't worry about the address, but it does no harm to have a general location. Agents are simple folk and will assume you will work anywhere anyway.

    Use your company email address; why wouldn't you? That's what you're selling, after all.

    If you aren't available now, the agency probably won't bother with you. There are enough alternatives out there looking for work who can start tomorrow.

    The other thing is that a permie sells their future value to their prospective employer while a contractor sells what he has done in the last 5 years. You're not there for the long haul, you're there to do a specific job better than anyone else, so your CV should focus on the job in hand and only highlight the stuff you've done that is directly related to it. And yes, that means a re-write for every role you go for.

    Have fun. you're in a different world now. Read the guides on this page, and get a copy of the PCG's Guide to Freelancing and study that; you have no idea how much you don't know.
    Blog? What blog...?

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      #3
      as a contractor !- never add your address to your CV. Cos i presume you are applying nation wide. (Just like me )
      i work anywhere as far as theres money there

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        #4
        I've received a couple of CV's with no postal address in the recent past. Straight to the bin!
        <Insert idea here> will never be adopted because the politicians are in the pockets of the banks!

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          #5
          Originally posted by vwdan View Post
          1) Should I include my address?
          What benefit does it have? Regardless of what your address is, unless it happens to be the place where the agent grew up, they are unlikely to have a clue where it is anywhere - eg. "I've got a role in Aberdeen, is that convenient for you?" I live in Lancashire. "So is it far?"

          I had one agent tell me that the client was concerned that I wouldn't be able to do a daily commute from Preston to Watford. I explained that I would be staying in a hotel Monday to Friday - no issues, started the following week.

          Originally posted by vwdan View Post
          2) Should I use my personal e-mail address or my new companies e-mail address
          Whichever one looks more professional. I always use my company email account, but plenty of people I know use their hotmail ones.

          Someone I worked with years back had something like hairyarsedbiker@hotmail.com which he had to ditch when he was made redundant and had to start looking for work.

          Originally posted by vwdan View Post
          3) Should I add my future agreed end date from my current permie job.
          I wouldn't. My CV says "2012 - current" for this project. If it gets sent out now, it shows I'm still working, rather than having to remember to update it for each extension.

          Originally posted by vwdan View Post
          And is there anything else that should differ between a CV of a permie worker and that of a contractor?
          There are lots of differences - some posters on here have helped out in the past and done a quick review for others. I know Dodgy has done some before, or maybe he just used them to fish for leads....
          Originally posted by MaryPoppins
          I hadn't really understood this 'pwned' expression until I read DirtyDog's post.

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            #6
            Originally posted by DirtyDog View Post
            What benefit does it have? Regardless of what your address is, unless it happens to be the place where the agent grew up, they are unlikely to have a clue where it is anywhere - eg. "I've got a role in Aberdeen, is that convenient for you?" I live in Lancashire. "So is it far?"

            I had one agent tell me that the client was concerned that I wouldn't be able to do a daily commute from Preston to Watford. I explained that I would be staying in a hotel Monday to Friday - no issues, started the following week.


            Whichever one looks more professional. I always use my company email account, but plenty of people I know use their hotmail ones.

            Someone I worked with years back had something like hairyarsedbiker@hotmail.com which he had to ditch when he was made redundant and had to start looking for work.


            I wouldn't. My CV says "2012 - current" for this project. If it gets sent out now, it shows I'm still working, rather than having to remember to update it for each extension.


            There are lots of differences - some posters on here have helped out in the past and done a quick review for others. I know Dodgy has done some before, or maybe he just used them to fish for leads....
            WHS +1

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              #7
              Originally posted by vwdan View Post
              Hi All,

              I've never had any problems getting phone calls when looking for permie work, and to be fair, things aren't going too badly now I'm looking for contracts but there are a few queries I have after reading comments on the forums. I'm going to upload a new version of my CV soon, and I want it to be spot on for contracting. I appreciate that these are very basic questions, but I'm happy with my overall CV so I'm just looking to really tweak it up.
              A CV is an individual thing. "spot on" is what works for you.

              Personally I don't have contact details on my CV but I do put basic details in the job site profile whenever it's uploaded. Neither do I list client names or contract dates. Present role is listed as Director/Consultant of MyCo.

              I use a personalised email for agency contacts and a company email address for direct clients. My CV is hosted and downloadable as a PDF. MyCo has a company web-site. Both are linked from my LinkedIn profile as well as being indexed by Google. Agents never seem to have trouble getting hold of me by any combination of those routes.

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                #8
                The reasons not to have your home address and/or home phone number on your CV are:
                1. They take up space for that could be used to show of more of your valuable skills.
                2. If you upload your CV to job boards ( even some agencies systems aren't secure especially if they upload it to an external system) it can be harvested by spammers/crooks.
                3. You don't want to be phoned up at 7.00 am on a bank holiday by some agent and wake up your entire household. With a mobile phone the idiot wakes up less people.

                Just put your name, your geographical location, email address and mobile phone number on it.

                If the client wants your exact location etc the agent will include it when putting you forward.
                "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                  #9
                  Thanks everyone, some good thoughts worth bearing in mind.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by petergriffin View Post
                    I've received a couple of CV's with no postal address in the recent past. Straight to the bin!
                    Just curious why would you need this? Were they permy or contract CVs?

                    qh
                    Last edited by quackhandle; 1 February 2014, 15:42. Reason: correcting bad grammar, sorry.
                    He had a negative bluety on a quackhandle and was quadraspazzed on a lifeglug.

                    I look forward to your all knowing and likely sarcastic and unhelpful reply.

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