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anyone else considering permiedom?

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    #51
    In much the same position. After several weeks of nearly nothings I have had a telephone interview in which the interviewer asked if I would go perm. Then offered a face to face next Weds. Tuesday I have a face to face at a low paying contract (same rate I was on 4 years ago). Monday I have a telephone SQL test for a perm job in London. So nothing for ages then 3 potentials in the same few days. And I must admit the last perm job in London is my secret favourite. As the salary is stupid. Or the agent is lying.

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      #52
      Just finished negotiating on summat dark side meself.

      Justification is the market is pants in cloggers even if you speak cloggy, this role gets me into another industry without having to have the experience, so adds another string to my bow.
      Contracting with a Dutch limited is a bureaucratic PITA and accountants, solicitors and insurance aint cheap ( about 10 times the price in the UK, not to mention the €2.5k company set up fees), not to mention having to retain salary constantly at a certain level to maintain the expat tax ruling.

      Will give it a go and see what happens, permie contracts here are a year at a time for the first couple of years anyway, before you get a proper permie contract.
      "Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what's for lunch." - Orson Welles

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        #53
        Originally posted by norrahe View Post
        Just finished negotiating on summat dark side meself.

        Justification is the market is pants in cloggers even if you speak cloggy, this role gets me into another industry without having to have the experience, so adds another string to my bow.
        Contracting with a Dutch limited is a bureaucratic PITA and accountants, solicitors and insurance aint cheap ( about 10 times the price in the UK, not to mention the €2.5k company set up fees), not to mention having to retain salary constantly at a certain level to maintain the expat tax ruling.

        Will give it a go and see what happens, permie contracts here are a year at a time for the first couple of years anyway, before you get a proper permie contract.
        Interesting to hear its not just the UK where the contract market is carp.
        I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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          #54
          I wonder if the middle market is just disappearing. People even want to offload everything to third parties / freelancers or they want the skills in house.

          Is the old approach of we'll get a contractor in but eventually support it ourselves dying because people realise that they will always need enhancements and people to support it?
          merely at clientco for the entertainment

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            #55
            Originally posted by eek View Post
            I wonder if the middle market is just disappearing. People even want to offload everything to third parties / freelancers or they want the skills in house.

            Is the old approach of we'll get a contractor in but eventually support it ourselves dying because people realise that they will always need enhancements and people to support it?
            Tend to agree. Reason I see is (for my specialism at least) specialism creep. For example, BA's cross skilling so can say to clients they can do the job of 2 resources. The growth of bodyshop's (mate of mine was one of the founders of a quite well known example) who'll supply resources under market rate plus, the continual taxation nonsense going on connected to contractors. Clients dont want the hassle of IR35 or, being seen to have 'off payroll' employees not paying their 'fair share' of tax.
            I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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              #56
              anyone else considering permiedom?

              No

              HTH
              Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
              I can't see any way to do it can you please advise?

              I want my account deleted and all of my information removed, I want to invoke my right to be forgotten.

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                #57
                I would have thought that many people would benefit from a permanent employment. Especially with many rates hovering around the 200-300/day mark.

                I wouldn't consider a contract rate unless it was 500+/day. Any less is just not worth bothering with.

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                  #58
                  Well, just heard I'm not getting an interview for the permie role. Despite having a cv that matches the job requirements (exactly imho), the manager says he's already interviewed people with the same skills, experience and background as me and its not what he's looking for

                  In others words, he doesnt want someone with a contracting background. Hey ho. Good news is, I've got a face to face interview tomorrow so, not all bad news.
                  I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
                    Well, just heard I'm not getting an interview for the permie role. Despite having a cv that matches the job requirements (exactly imho), the manager says he's already interviewed people with the same skills, experience and background as me and its not what he's looking for

                    In others words, he doesnt want someone with a contracting background. Hey ho. Good news is, I've got a face to face interview tomorrow so, not all bad news.
                    goodluck with your interview, remember to post experience....

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                      #60
                      No, you don't have to post your experience BB - but Good Luck for tomorrow.
                      "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
                      - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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