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    #81
    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    Really? And the case law for that is...

    I'd expect that it's the opposite - you try too hard to keep them sweet and you then fail D&C and start to act more like a permie.

    Are you sure you're cut out for this?
    The thinking behind this was if you push them hard on the dress code thing they will push back just as hard and say you must wear this which is worse for D&C. Just pay them the professional courtesy of adhering to their code rather than make it a D&C issue and IR35 isn't an issue. Not that D&C around dress code is an issue anyway, it's such a small flag.
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      #82
      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
      The thinking behind this was if you push them hard on the dress code thing they will push back just as hard and say you must wear this which is worse for D&C. Just pay them the professional courtesy of adhering to their code rather than make it a D&C issue and IR35 isn't an issue. Not that D&C around dress code is an issue anyway, it's such a small flag.
      +1

      Professional courtesy should be #1 on any contractor's priority.
      Whining about whatever dress-code is in place just petty (IMHO). You're there to do a job, not strut about with a sense of entitlement or lord it over permies 'because you're better than them ' (which is the basis for some replies to this thread).

      For myself, I prefer a quiet life. If the client says 'We'd like you to do this' and it doesn't cause me personal harm then 9/10 times I'll go along with it.

      Smile and take the invoice.

      YMMV

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        #83
        Dress code

        I never have a Dress Down Friday as my company doesn't permit it on client's premises.

        Smart and polished is Cojak Ltd's policy (although if any French employees are working there I do try that little bit harder. The extra effort is lost on Brits...)
        "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
        - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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          #84
          Originally posted by PerfectStorm View Post
          Dress codes are a ridiculous throwback to a bygone era and we could all do without them. It would improve people's engagement no end.
          My first ever role was in a company where you could wear what you like.

          One of the managers at the company once came in, in paint soiled sweat pants as that was the only clean item of clothing he had due to his washing machine breaking down. Unfortunately he didn't realise they had a paint stain on them on his bum area and had gone to meet a client. Needless to say the client wasn't impressed. Luckily it was second meeting with client not the first but we (I had to go next time) had to have another meeting with them to get the work.

          So wearing what you like is fine but if you are going to meet people who are potential clients' and haven't yet got their business you can at least look like you made an effort.
          "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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            #85
            Originally posted by scalyback View Post

            I am currently working a role at a client site and the company running the contract have decided that working nights we now have to wear business attire, when I asked what is wrong with jeans and a polo shirt for nights/weekends I have been told to "toe the line" and if I don't dress accordingly I will be subject to the companies discipline process. The clients workforce working nights wear jeans, 3/4 trousers or shorts on nights.

            To be honest I feel like telling them to stick it I am standing my corner at the moment, my question is if the discipline process kicks in does that invalidate my IR35 standing as I am being treated as a permie.
            Unless you are permanent or on a fixed term contract I hope you pointed out that their disciplinary process doesn't apply to you, and if they want you to leave they should say so.

            In fact if you really don't like them (not just for this though) make sure it's a chaotic time for them and state you think you should leave by mutual agreement.
            "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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              #86
              I usually just wear what most of the people in the department wear. The last few places I've contracted are ok with jeans/t-shirt/shirt - so that's been my dresscode. Few years back, I was contracting for a small company that preferred suits everyday (incl. friday) - so went with that. In my opinion not worth much arguing over

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                #87
                Originally posted by malvolio View Post
                I stand by my earlier comment - contractors are always better dressed than the permies. And that includes at interview.

                To pick up GillsMan's point though, the earring isn't an issue, they're not uncommon provided they're discrete. Not wearing a tie though...

                Actually it depends on the shirt. A standard business shirt sans tie is merely sloppy dressing, but a shirt collar that is designed to be worn wthout a tie is a different matter. How acceptable it is will be down the prejudices of the interviewer(s) and that's not something you will know until you meet them, by which time it's too late. So IMHO why take the risk: wear a tie for the interview.
                What's a shirt collar not designed for a tie look like? Harry Hill?
                Blood in your poo

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                  #88
                  Have they asked you to wear a green plastic badge with five empty holes for the stars (should you earn them)?
                  I'm Spartacus.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
                    Rule #3 of Contracting:

                    Contractors are always better dressed than permies.
                    This, dress to impress

                    Last edited by CloudWalker; 11 August 2014, 16:05.

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                      #90
                      MyCo policy is:

                      Week 1 Suit and tie
                      Weeks 2 to 103 Chanel No. 5 and a smile

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