Beginner BUSINESS ANALYST .....with added questions!

[cojak]

Don't fret about it Dear, it don't mean that much...

[northernladuk]

Don't fret about it Dear, it don't mean that much...

I feel unloved, under valued and useless.... and it don't help when people make me feel the same on here lol

[Bexter]

Well there you go. You don't understand the wider market, but aren't about to listen to someone who does. All the current work is in Finance with very little going on elsewhere. If you are not currently working for a banking or insurance client, who for some reason are still paying rates like the credit crunch never happened (and I wonder where they got the money to do that from?) then you have a problem.

I accept your point, you are right I am naive in this respect as I have only ever worked in Finance for IB's so I don't know what the rest of the market is like.

However, having said that, every skill I have that I sell myself on, I believe is the same as most BA's either in IB or not. Also, if the market is that bad on your side, why not be adaptable and move into IB. As you say, there are tons of jobs over here, paying silly money, so surely the smart guy works his way in.

I'll accept that it can be hard to get into, but from my experience if you're good, you'll get the job even if you don't have IB experience. 6 months ago I was still permie at another IB and hiring big time, and I can't even get across the amount of absolute rubbish the agency sent us, in terms of not even being able to string a sentence together and expecting £450 a day. So at that point I would have taken anyone, with any experience, as long as they came across as capable and could do what I was asking,
Anyway, this isn't really the point, just something I'm interested in cause I don't think its that hard getting into IB if you know your stuff and can prove it.

Going back to OP's point, cause obviously it ain't gonna help you if you're in Leeds to say just go IB, but in terms of general BA skillset, I'm still new at this, so I think there's probably better people on here to comment, but mainly I would say it comes down to your attitude and ability to communicate in terms of getting the job in the first place. I do a lot of requirement gathering, document writing, presenting of information blah blah blah and I work really hard to influence people, get them on my side, and win project buy in from people. Once you've got that, you can blag the rest

Obviously though, I still have a lot to learn, I am but a young paduan.

[BentheBA]

So which tit gave me negative rep and commented 'unhelpful' on my post. Pointing out someone has completely missed the mark on IR35 is the most helpful advice this guy can get. What isn't unhelpful is letting him blunder on with the wrong idea of IR35 and make even bigger mistakes...

Fookin rep system is a pain in the ass when the old heads don't bother with it anymore and newbies are happy to give negative rep to some hard feedback they don't like to hear

Just for info it wasnt this newbie, I found your comments useful (even if the presentation was a little negative)

[malvolio]

Anyway, this isn't really the point, just something I'm interested in cause I don't think its that hard getting into IB if you know your stuff and can prove it

That's where the naivety shows. IF I get the interview I usually get the gig. But what if the agent follows the moden trend of string searching the CV rather than actually reading it and binning every one that doesn't have all the right keywords in it? You can't sell yourself to anyone if you can't get to the hirer, and that's the same in any industry; CVs are being filtered at the wrong point with the wrong criteria these days.

[Bexter]

That's where the naivety shows. IF I get the interview I usually get the gig. But what if the agent follows the moden trend of string searching the CV rather than actually reading it and binning every one that doesn't have all the right keywords in it? You can't sell yourself to anyone if you can't get to the hirer, and that's the same in any industry; CVs are being filtered at the wrong point with the wrong criteria these days.

Can't argue with you there, I'm not a fan of agents, particularly ones who seem to have no understanding whatsoever of IB's!

I have a few colleagues I've worked with previously in other areas that I've tried to help get into IB directly, because agents have refused to help them, even though I know they are much more capable than a lot of people I know.

I had delusions of starting my own recruitment business once, but then I did a bit of research on it and decided perhaps not!