contracting gravy train only temporary until india takes over

[realityhack]

Well personally, I know for a fact no one from India or in India will ever do my job. Firstly because [1] most private companies are quite racist, I have never in my life worked with a single black person, and only one asian for 6 months. Im not joking and this is over 18 years, and I live in the north where there are loads of them. No doubt its different in the public sector.

Secondly, [2] someone in another country will never understand a business to the level I do to be able to write systems for them.

[3] In the coming depression (the one that starts after the election) [4] it will become so unpopular to outsource jobs abroad that any company that does will lose masses of business.

Quite a strange post there EUK.

[1] Really? Is that a fact? Where have you been living?
[2] Isn't that why we have whole onshore/embedded project teams? To come up with accurate reqs?
[3] Now there's a possibility.
[4] I'm sure, if anything like that happens, it'll be more bark than bite.

Funny undertone to all that <whisper> You wouldn't happen to be one of them there racialists, would you? </whisper>

[lukemg]

Agreed, this is brilliant work ! I used to think it would all come back eventually, forget that, the costs are prohibitive and all the expertise it has taken years to build up has gone for most places. The real reason though is that the quality will improve, there is no doubt about this. They said quality manufacturing wouldn't go for the same reason, now the quality is a match or better. For many companies IT is not core to the business and exists as a large non-revenue generating cost. hardware and software dev costs will continue to fall and will become more reliable reducing the support and maintenance required. There will be niche operators and a fair number of people still needed on-shore but expecting the sea to change direction is very naive.

[MarillionFan]

Quite a strange post there EUK.

[1] Really? Is that a fact? Where have you been living?
[2] Isn't that why we have whole onshore/embedded project teams? To come up with accurate reqs?
[3] Now there's a possibility.
[4] I'm sure, if anything like that happens, it'll be more bark than bite.

Funny undertone to all that <whisper> You wouldn't happen to be one of them there racialists, would you? </whisper>

I think EUK is correct. I think he'd mentioned where he'd been working

1992 - 2001 - French Socialist Party
2001 - 2004 - BNP
2004 - 2007 - UKIP
2007 - Present - Tory Headquarters

Remember, just because those foreign fellas server you teas and coffees, doesn't mean you actually work with them

HTH

[realityhack]

Very colonial, MF.

Do you have servers on the brain at the mo?

[mobi]

Either change your perception or you will be lost into oblivion in no time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMcfrLYDm2U

Few weeks back there was a show in BBC "The day migrants left". In a nutshell, it concluded

* UK economy will collapse without migrants (be it East Europeans or Asians)
* Most employers think Britons are least preferable for most jobs because they are plain inefficient

Offshoring is inevitable. Only job security is your own ability. Days or lucrative contracting job is over. There will always be a few good ones but for that one need to rise on value chain.