contracting gravy train only temporary until india takes over

[gingerjedi]

stop voting for the same old politicians who allow companies to rip us all off and export our jobs abroad

It doesn't mater who's in power, do you think Global Corp recognises borders? There is feck all we can do, tulip isn't it.

[escapeUK]

Your kids will not have any IT jobs to do unless they emigrate to India.

What will they do?

Well personally, I know for a fact no one from India or in India will ever do my job. Firstly because most private companies are quite racist, I have never in my life worked with a single black person, and only one asian for 6 months. Im not joking and this is over 18 years, and I live in the north where there are loads of them. No doubt its different in the public sector.

Secondly, someone in another country will never understand a business to the level I do to be able to write systems for them.

In the coming depression (the one that starts after the election) it will become so unpopular to outsource jobs abroad that any company that does will lose masses of business.

[stek]

Well personally, I know for a fact no one from India or in India will ever do my job. Firstly because most private companies are quite racist, I have never in my life worked with a single black person, and only one asian for 6 months. Im not joking and this is over 18 years, and I live in the north where there are loads of them. No doubt its different in the public sector.

Secondly, someone in another country will never understand a business to the level I do to be able to write systems for them.

In the coming depression (the one that starts after the election) it will become so unpopular to outsource jobs abroad that any company that does will lose masses of business.

Oh dear, another "I'm too important to get the boot type..". I'd be more circumspect if I was you.

You must be living in a cocoon or for very small enterprises if you've never worked with significant numbers of Bobs. It doesn't matter if you are 'da man' or not - some Bob further up the scale will be making the decision via spreadsheet, nothing else.

[HairyArsedBloke]

Back when HAB was a young shaver being the recipient of business mentoring and all that stuff that was big in the 80’s I had a mentor who came out with a line that always stuck with me: “The best thing to do with anyone who makes themselves indispensable, or thinks themselves so, is to dispense with them immediately. Having them around is dangerous.”

[nodric]

For what it’s worth, I’ll add some words to the thread.

I am currently working for a major bank in Europe, who have decided to offshore all their design, build (development), and testing to India. This will take 2-3 years, and will cost some 60 Million Euros, well that's their idealised budget. I've got news for them

During this time they will make extensive use of the contractors they already have, and ultimately have to hire some new ones, so plenty of work for now

I can tell you now from the way they are approaching the offshoring process, it will be a train wreck. It will take a couple of years for the wreck to occur, followed by another two years to repair all the damage, by which time someone who will have replaced the current CIO responsible (as he will be blamed), will then spend another 2-3 years onshoring it all again.

Why will it fail? Because they’re going into this as a ‘black box’ approach, trusting the ‘big name consultancy’ to expertly manage it offsite

They don’t want to invest in an internal offshore management team as their teams are too busy delivering other projects to be reassigned, nor do they want to be involved in close follow up and monitoring of the teams in India, as they think this exposes them to being held accountable if something goes wrong

Think I’m wrong about this being a flawed approach, then just Google how to manage an offshore outsourcing project.

Did I mention they’re going to offshore all the banks core systems!

Don’t worry, there’ll be work for us for a while to come yet. Yes you’ll have to move companies constantly, but that’s contracting anyway. In the end it will come full circle, and they’ll always need some local experts to mitigate risk.

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[zara_backdog]

[QUOTE=escapeUK;1120530]Well personally, I know for a fact no one from India or in India will ever do my job. Firstly because most private companies are quite racist, I have never in my life worked with a single black person, and only one asian for 6 months. Im not joking and this is over 18 years, and I live in the north where there are loads of them. No doubt its different in the public sector.

Secondly, someone in another country will never understand a business to the level I do to be able to write systems for them.

QUOTE]

You stuck in some sort of timewarp?

[weemster]

Been there with most companies who were going down the offshoring route and guess what it always came back. It will happen in certain industries but slowly and by then the people doing the work will realise they are getting and change the rates .

[weemster]

Been there with most companies who were going down the offshoring route and guess what it always came back. It will happen in certain industries but slowly and by then the people doing the work will realise they are getting and change the rates .

That said I am leaving the country

[AngelOfTheNorth]

[QUOTE=zara_backdog;1120606][QUOTE=escapeUK;1120530] Firstly because most private companies are quite racist, I have never in my life worked with a single black person, and only one asian for 6 months. Im not joking and this is over 18 years, and I live in the north where there are loads of them.

If this isnt a deliberate wind up then this is one of the funniest things Ive read on here.

[nomadd]

[QUOTE=AngelOfTheNorth;1120671][QUOTE=zara_backdog;1120606]

Firstly because most private companies are quite racist, I have never in my life worked with a single black person, and only one asian for 6 months. Im not joking and this is over 18 years, and I live in the north where there are loads of them.

If this isnt a deliberate wind up then this is one of the funniest things Ive read on here.

Or maybe when he said he worked "up North" he actually meant The North Pole?