How do I ask for **Open book?** (Urgent Help Requested)

[NotAllThere]

My moneys on him being a totally moronoic insane troll.

You think Denny's back?

[DiscoStu]

You think Denny's back?

I guess we'll have to wait and see if some tortuously long diatribes about nothing of any consequence begin to appear

[Clippy]

You think Denny's back?

Nah, I think this guy is genuinely living with the fairies - he seems to think the market should work the way he says and can't understand why it doesn't.

Clueless and inexperienced.

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[Not So Wise]

It is essential for IR35 that it be different, otherwise you would be an employee.

Where did you get idea this from?

Sure no notice either way beats mutual notice, but highly doubt mismatched notice means anything as far as IR35.

Sound like you have been listening to agent bulltulip

[RichardCranium]

Where did you get idea this from?

Sure no notice either way beats mutual notice, but highly doubt mismatched notice means anything as far as IR35.

Sound like you have been listening to agent bulltulip

If you intend to go through all the other comments I have made in this thread, you had better cancel any arrangements you had made for this afternoon.

[Not So Wise]

Cannot be assed to do more than scan though this whole thread (*shoot me it's Monday*) and most certainly cannot be assed to read his previous one. And while I can agree that many of his "demands" are foolish (or more the way he demanding them) I cannot help but agree with one of them

I have no visibility of the terms the agent has with the Clientco

Considering, due to stupid legal rulings, this can impact the IR35 status of a contractor , there should be either a way to see the agency/client contract T&C's or force them to be liable if it contains anything that contradicts the contractor/agency contract

To many contractors think they are safe because they got their contract vetted, totally ignoring there is a contract that will affect their IR35 status that they will never see. More than once seen contractor/agency contracts that are different as day and night to the agency/client contracts.

Still remember once handing in 2 weeks notice at a contract (my contract required no notice) and client going mental because in the agency/client contract it said I was required to give 2 months notice

And rest of the terms were so unfriendly that even the most liberal interpretation of the IR35 regs would have conclude that it was well inside IR35 and this was agencies standard bloody contract, while my contract with agency was one of the most IR35 friendly I have ever seen.

[shanti]

Cannot be assed to do more than scan though this whole thread (*shoot me it's Monday*) and most certainly cannot be assed to read his previous one. And while I can agree that many of his "demands" are foolish (or more the way he demanding them) I cannot help but agree with one of them


Considering, due to stupid legal rulings, this can impact the IR35 status of a contractor , there should be either a way to see the agency/client contract T&C's or force them to be liable if it contains anything that contradicts the contractor/agency contract

To many contractors think they are safe because they got their contract vetted, totally ignoring there is a contract that will affect their IR35 status that they will never see. More than once seen contractor/agency contracts that are different as day and night to the agency/client contracts.

Still remember once handing in 2 weeks notice at a contract (my contract required no notice) and client going mental because in the agency/client contract it said I was required to give 2 months notice

And rest of the terms were so unfriendly that even the most liberal interpretation of the IR35 regs would have conclude that it was well inside IR35 and this was agencies standard bloody contract, while my contract with agency was one of the most IR35 friendly I have ever seen.

My justifications of transparency through to the Clientco - and vice versa, are to match rates (minus fair agency commissions) as well as visibility into termination periods, length of contracts, contract-to-perm restrictions, non-rehire periods restrictions, etc...

IR35 adds another dimension.

I know agencies will fight and tooth and nail to cloak it.

But the request is justified - alternative is to walk.

If fact the reputable Clientco's probably want to know what their chap/chapettes are getting.

[shanti]

Where did you get idea this from?

Sure no notice either way beats mutual notice, but highly doubt mismatched notice means anything as far as IR35.

Sound like you have been listening to agent bulltulip

I intrigued to know what to aim for. Would a 1 day notice on agency side, mean a contractor should ask for a 2 day notice period on the contractor side (keep it as close as possible but maintain a mismatch)?

Your feedback welcome.

[d000hg]

Just wondering if a contract has working hours defined as "Professional Working day"... if its worth tightening that up with 9-5pm or something (wonder if that is the norm nowadays).

Doesn't Shanti Ltd have a policy defining its standard working day of 1000-1500?

[Clippy]

I intrigued to know what to aim for. Would a 1 day notice on agency side, mean a contractor should ask for a 2 day notice period on the contractor side (keep it as close as possible but maintain a mismatch)?

Your feedback welcome.

DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.